Saturday, May 11, 2024
09:02 PM (GMT +5)

Go Back   CSS Forums > General > Discussion

Discussion Discuss current affairs and issues helpful in CSS only.

Reply Share Thread: Submit Thread to Facebook Facebook     Submit Thread to Twitter Twitter     Submit Thread to Google+ Google+    
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old Saturday, August 29, 2009
Zoyee's Avatar
Senior Member
Medal of Appreciation: Awarded to appreciate member's contribution on forum. (Academic and professional achievements do not make you eligible for this medal) - Issue reason:
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Chakwal
Posts: 908
Thanks: 897
Thanked 1,478 Times in 681 Posts
Zoyee has much to be proud ofZoyee has much to be proud ofZoyee has much to be proud ofZoyee has much to be proud ofZoyee has much to be proud ofZoyee has much to be proud ofZoyee has much to be proud ofZoyee has much to be proud ofZoyee has much to be proud of
Default how can we have good leadership

Hello to all members..

As we have discussed our major problems...most of the members are of the view that we dont have such leaders and administration at all to cope with all these problems injustice, insecurity etc...Thanks to all of you who gave answers and participate actively...

So question arises here that how can we have good leadership? What do you think how can we have world renowned leaders like our Quaid-e-Azam and ofcourse Mahatir Mohamaad?


Regards
__________________
Main ne Allah ko apne iradon ke tootne se pehchana ... !!
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Zoyee For This Useful Post:
Waseemtabish (Saturday, August 29, 2009)
  #2  
Old Saturday, August 29, 2009
maliasghar's Avatar
39th CTP (DMG)
CSP Medal: Awarded to those Members of the forum who are serving CSP Officers - Issue reason: CE 2010 - Merit  09Medal of Appreciation: Awarded to appreciate member's contribution on forum. (Academic and professional achievements do not make you eligible for this medal) - Issue reason:
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Islamabad
Posts: 365
Thanks: 153
Thanked 913 Times in 344 Posts
maliasghar is a glorious beacon of lightmaliasghar is a glorious beacon of lightmaliasghar is a glorious beacon of lightmaliasghar is a glorious beacon of lightmaliasghar is a glorious beacon of light
Default

1. Democracy needs to be given a chance to mature and strengthen.
2. The nation needs to participate in the democratic process. A 40% or even less turnout in electoral process does not give legitimacy to the system.
3. The middle class, particularly the upcoming generation needs to come to the forefront and participate in the democratic process instead of criticizing from outside. They can create and mobilize opinion.
4. Institutions and processes need to be strengthened instead of always looking for a Messiah. If the processes are there, majority will start to act rightly.
__________________
Muhammad Ali Asghar
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to maliasghar For This Useful Post:
Waseemtabish (Saturday, August 29, 2009), Zoyee (Saturday, August 29, 2009)
  #3  
Old Saturday, August 29, 2009
Saleeqa Batool's Avatar
Senior Member
Medal of Appreciation: Awarded to appreciate member's contribution on forum. (Academic and professional achievements do not make you eligible for this medal) - Issue reason:
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: In the reality of dream
Posts: 514
Thanks: 93
Thanked 767 Times in 374 Posts
Saleeqa Batool is a splendid one to beholdSaleeqa Batool is a splendid one to beholdSaleeqa Batool is a splendid one to beholdSaleeqa Batool is a splendid one to beholdSaleeqa Batool is a splendid one to beholdSaleeqa Batool is a splendid one to beholdSaleeqa Batool is a splendid one to behold
Default

Democracy, if practiced in its real spirit, is cure to all the ills. Recurring of Periodic elections only, is not democracy rather it is combination of culture, mindset, norms and traditions based on principal of equality, justice and freedom in all shades of life. Democratic Societies ensures indiscriminate participation of all its members in decision making but this is not the case with our society where only elites determine the fate of masses.

Political parties are believed to be the blood of democracy .However in our country; these are treated as hereditary properties and are run in dictatorial manner. A common man can not even imagine becoming a prominent figure in some leading party in spite of having the excellent leadership skills. Emergence of capable leadership is possible only if political parties practice democracy with in their organizations and provide opportunity to all the segments of society to participate in the political process.

Youth is always considered as agent of change. Luckily, it constitutes 29 percent of our society. They have all the capabilities to bring change and provide a visionary leadership to Pakistan but they are deliberately prevented to develop Political and leadership skills.
Students Unions are banned because influential class cannot afford a new leadership capable to replace them.

Youth must reclaim Pakistan. They possess the strength to bring change by putting concerted efforts.It is always the most progressive and dynamic part of society. Youth played a prominent role in Pakistan movement. It was the youth who proved a decisive factor in debacle of Ayub Khan. Recently Govt. called back its decision to impose tax on SMS due to fear of opposition from youth. So the young people are well potent to provide a new leadership and set a new direction if they establish a plate farm to raise their voice in peaceful and democratic manner.
__________________
Hoee hay jab say mukhalif hawa zamanay key......
Humain bhee dhun see hoee hay diaa jalaanay key
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Saleeqa Batool For This Useful Post:
Waseemtabish (Saturday, August 29, 2009), Zoyee (Saturday, August 29, 2009)
  #4  
Old Saturday, August 29, 2009
Waseemtabish's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Bhakkar
Posts: 646
Thanks: 735
Thanked 702 Times in 333 Posts
Waseemtabish is a jewel in the roughWaseemtabish is a jewel in the roughWaseemtabish is a jewel in the roughWaseemtabish is a jewel in the rough
Default

Miltary has major role in this respect. we kill our best leader in "the best interst of people"
__________________
~It is possible to fail in many ways...while to succeed is possible only in one way.~
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Waseemtabish For This Useful Post:
Zoyee (Saturday, August 29, 2009)
  #5  
Old Saturday, August 29, 2009
39th CTP (PSP)
CSP Medal: Awarded to those Members of the forum who are serving CSP Officers - Issue reason: CE 2010 - Merit 222
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: floydian672@gmail.com
Posts: 404
Thanks: 441
Thanked 495 Times in 237 Posts
floydian is a name known to allfloydian is a name known to allfloydian is a name known to allfloydian is a name known to allfloydian is a name known to allfloydian is a name known to all
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Waseemtabish
Miltary has major role in this respect. we kill our best leader in "the best interst of people"
???

Would you like to elaborate on it my friend.
__________________
Police Service of Pakistan (PSP)
39th Common Training Program
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old Saturday, August 29, 2009
aariz's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Karachi
Posts: 756
Thanks: 439
Thanked 446 Times in 319 Posts
aariz is just really niceaariz is just really niceaariz is just really niceaariz is just really nice
Default

Middle class will have to come up on the stage and we cant have dedicated and sincere leadership until and unless feudalism persists in the country. Secondly, quality education for all is the key
__________________
Try not to become a man of success but a man of value.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old Saturday, August 29, 2009
Waseemtabish's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Bhakkar
Posts: 646
Thanks: 735
Thanked 702 Times in 333 Posts
Waseemtabish is a jewel in the roughWaseemtabish is a jewel in the roughWaseemtabish is a jewel in the roughWaseemtabish is a jewel in the rough
Default

@folydian

brother my point of view is very clear. when democracy or leadership grows and gain maturity they hanged or killed.
__________________
~It is possible to fail in many ways...while to succeed is possible only in one way.~
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old Saturday, August 29, 2009
Senior Member
Medal of Appreciation: Awarded to appreciate member's contribution on forum. (Academic and professional achievements do not make you eligible for this medal) - Issue reason:
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 407
Thanks: 193
Thanked 301 Times in 183 Posts
New Student has a spectacular aura aboutNew Student has a spectacular aura about
Default

Thanks for raising such an important issue, but this simple question has that much difficult answer. In my opinion

1. It is not just the question of good leadership as we may have a charismatic leadership for some time but after that, we have same corrupt governments. This is clear after death of Quaid e Azam.

2. What we need is a better and reliable system that could produce honest and competent leadership, while blocking corrupt government. What we have is actually quite opposite of that system.

3. The reasons for persistence of such a system that promotes corrupt leadership are historical. Firstly for most of our history we were living under the rule of monarchs, and after that britishers also ruled us.Secondly after independence Quaid e Azam unfortunately died very earlier so that we dont have a leadership that could have guided us. Thirdly ensuing leadership looked at pakistan's people as just like herd that could be controlled by force and divide and rule policy like those of britishers. It is because the bureacratic rulers considered political leadership just like management of city, more particularly a matter of law and order. Military rulers just made a mess of what already existed. After that episodes of civil and military rules could not make stronger institutions to run the country.

4. So what to do? Answer is to wait. Because it is not just some periods of good political leadership but a matter of strong institutions that paves way to only competent leadership and blocks otherwise. Essential requirements are off course education, non military rule and strong judiciary. So we need time for strong institutions to emerge and INSHALLAH we would have it.

Regards
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old Saturday, August 29, 2009
fromQAU's Avatar
40th CTP (OMG)
Medal of Appreciation: Awarded to appreciate member's contribution on forum. (Academic and professional achievements do not make you eligible for this medal) - Issue reason: CSP Medal: Awarded to those Members of the forum who are serving CSP Officers - Issue reason: CE 2011 - Merit 333
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Islamabad
Posts: 471
Thanks: 334
Thanked 459 Times in 259 Posts
fromQAU will become famous soon enoughfromQAU will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Waseemtabish
@folydian

brother my point of view is very clear. when democracy or leadership grows and gain maturity they hanged or killed.

every nation has a government that it deserves.

i think that now we r moving in a right direction.formerly i belittled zardari, but now i m surprised to see his maneouvering in international politics.he is a diplomatic success really.we must not have biaseness.he is our president.he is going well in his capacity.we must be patient becoz democracy needs evolution not revolution.
__________________
Recite a Darood Shareef at least once and now.
(RAFIQUE AHMED KHOKHAR)
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old Saturday, August 29, 2009
Waseemtabish's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Bhakkar
Posts: 646
Thanks: 735
Thanked 702 Times in 333 Posts
Waseemtabish is a jewel in the roughWaseemtabish is a jewel in the roughWaseemtabish is a jewel in the roughWaseemtabish is a jewel in the rough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by fromQAU
every nation has a government that it deserves.

i think that now we r moving in a right direction.formerly i belittled zardari, but now i m surprised to see his maneouvering in international politics.he is a diplomatic success really.we must not have biaseness.he is our president.he is going well in his capacity.we must be patient becoz democracy needs evolution not revolution.
you point of view was focused on zardari sab, i am not blaming any politician but the true leadership of PPP is not present.
__________________
~It is possible to fail in many ways...while to succeed is possible only in one way.~
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Remeo and Juliet (SHAKESPARE) Complete Ahmad Bilal English Literature 1 Saturday, July 14, 2012 09:50 AM
King Lear ( SHAKESPEARE) complete Ahmad Bilal English Literature 2 Monday, December 06, 2010 09:15 AM
Learning About Leadership Saqib Riaz Business Administration 1 Friday, August 07, 2009 09:00 AM
HAMLET (SHAKESPEARE) Complete Ahmad Bilal English Literature 0 Wednesday, April 26, 2006 11:34 PM
LeaderShip Skills YasirKarim General Knowledge, Quizzes, IQ Tests 0 Friday, August 05, 2005 11:41 AM


CSS Forum on Facebook Follow CSS Forum on Twitter

Disclaimer: All messages made available as part of this discussion group (including any bulletin boards and chat rooms) and any opinions, advice, statements or other information contained in any messages posted or transmitted by any third party are the responsibility of the author of that message and not of CSSForum.com.pk (unless CSSForum.com.pk is specifically identified as the author of the message). The fact that a particular message is posted on or transmitted using this web site does not mean that CSSForum has endorsed that message in any way or verified the accuracy, completeness or usefulness of any message. We encourage visitors to the forum to report any objectionable message in site feedback. This forum is not monitored 24/7.

Sponsors: ArgusVision   vBulletin, Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.