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Unique Monday, March 29, 2010 04:45 PM

Why doctors and Engineers want to become CSPs?
 
I don't know why it's happening? It costs our Government big amount to impart medical or engineering to students at a high subsidised rate. Govt spends 1 Lakh per year on making of a doctor and he pays back only 16,000. After, they have got a highly subsidised education in very fine arenas, great jobs with lucrative salaries are waiting for them, they have respect and honour. They don't bear unemployment as do our BA/BSc/BBA students. Then what the point of it, that they go for CSS, and want to become civil servants where they certainly earn less.

HELP Monday, March 29, 2010 05:04 PM

@ Unique

Doctors and engineers want to become a CSP because they have no worth in this society.Pakistan is a Police State and to become powerful and feared one needs to be a CSP.Doctors and engineers are sheepish lot.

In pakistan the best profession is army,politics and bureaucracy.iss mulk may jo sab say barraa badmash hay wahi sab say ziada izzat kamata hay.

I have personally seen doctors and engineers.my elder brother and younger brother are doctor and engineer.Norespect.One is a butcher and the other is a non entity.

Regards,

Help

DR IMTIAZ KHUSHIK Monday, March 29, 2010 05:14 PM

Job security, growth and to be a policy maker in state's policies are great aspects in Civil Services than those of the other Services.

serene syeda! Monday, March 29, 2010 06:32 PM

css is the best option among allll for anybody...may be coz of lake of careeer counsiling people even after becoming doctors and engineers do not get satisfied from their respective fields thts they want to go for something different.

zash Monday, March 29, 2010 09:05 PM

power only
 
Doctors, Engineers have high salaries, of course, but low authority. They have respect in their job and have very very good chance to serve the nation in a far better way but human nature always seek for power, authority thats what tempt them for CSS.

DEADLYDOCTOR Monday, March 29, 2010 09:26 PM

doctors and high salaries seriously!
after 5 years of study,house job duration 1 year,with 18000 rs pay per month.house officer has the toughest duties
then he has to prepare for an exam fcps or other
after clearing it,apply for post graduation in a teaching hospital,tough to get it easily.only with a pay of 22000 rs per month. this continues for at least 4-6 more years.during which he has to pass two more exams one is intermediate module and second one is fcps part 2.now tell me at an age of 30-34 years you are only earning 20-30 thousand per month.private practice is very difficult during this schedule and hectic to manage(e.g in surgery house officer has to work sometimes 60-80 hours straight/in medicine also tough schedules. so if one has a private practice it is too difficult to manage it).in short low pay-more work - no authority-constant study and pressure to save human life
now if he does usmle, he goes to america and receives good pay in dollars.but in us you don't get the desire field easily,surgery field is near to impossible.
still if you get job there,again 6-8years of hard work is must.other options like acs,plab etc are almost over.
one reason for doctors coming to css is this struggle.if he has to earn more he has to become selfish,non-devoted and greedy which most do not want to become.
similarly engineers do get job early and sometimes better paid but job satisfaction is not there.

zash Monday, March 29, 2010 09:40 PM

No Sir
 
Sir!!!!

House Job Doctors are enjouying 43000/month at Sheikh Zaid Hospital Rahim Yar Khan. Ap pata nain kis zamane ki bat kr rahe hen
By the way CSP officer ki salray bhi bohat zada nai hoti
and 5 years education afrer Intermediate.

DEADLYDOCTOR Monday, March 29, 2010 09:44 PM

sir me king edward-meo hospital,jinnah hospital lahore,ganga ram lahore, services lahore,allied hospital faisalabad,nishtar multan all are paying 18000 per month.ye be 2 sal se hui he is se pehle 12000 thi us se 1 sal pehle it was 6000 and something.then doctors protested to ye increase hui he. house job me itni pay nahi milti someone might have misinform you. itni to fcps doctor ki pay nahi hoti in the beginning.may be sheikh zaid ryk me ho but there will be limited seats there. what more i can say?
doctor has to study 12 more years + intermediate
Csp ho k bunda relax ho jata he

Andrew Dufresne Monday, March 29, 2010 10:16 PM

[QUOTE=DEADLYDOCTOR;177378]sir me king edward-meo hospital,jinnah hospital lahore,ganga ram lahore, services lahore,allied hospital faisalabad,nishtar multan all are paying 18000 per month.ye be 2 sal se hui he is se pehle 12000 thi us se 1 sal pehle it was 6000 and something.then doctors protested to ye increase hui he. house job me itni pay nahi milti [/QUOTE]

I second Deadly Doctor. His stated figures are in agreement with my observation. Doctors, as long as they are under training, be it house job or FCPS training, do not get much. Size of their pay check is nothing when compared to their terrible schedule and serious responsibilities.

S_Ranjha Monday, March 29, 2010 11:05 PM

Prior to last few years Engrs only from background of landlord families or from already bureaucratic families(like poor me) tend to appear in CSS nd majority didn't looked at CSS as something full of charm n were quite satisfied with their jobs. But in last 2 yrs many people have diverted to it just coz of the worst scenario in job sector as they could not find any respectable job in engineering sector. This is as per my observation


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