[LEFT]perhaps we should make a distinction between a "JOB" and a "CAREER"...secondly perhaps life is larger than being an engineer or a doctor....being an engineer/doctor adds to your skills right...and they never go away no matter what you do in life or whichever career you choose...an engineer is analytic and a doctor has good Ratta/memorization power....[/LEFT]

there is no denying the fact (as mentioned by the FPSC reports too) that there had been a decline in the interest in CSS examination very recently in the past...students went on to avail scholarships abroad and had lucrative opportunities in the past....but this would be unfair to all those who appeared/ prepared to appear because they had a passion for it....

Power and Respect
 

[B][FONT="Comic Sans MS"]unfortunately in our country doctors and engineers have low status as compared to css officers, and they have to consume lot of time in their field but inspite of that there is no out put. [/FONT][/B]

i feel that "Respect and Power Khuda dayta hay"....CSS or Engineering or Presidency nai dayti....we should keep in mind, whosoever puts up any struggle in life, whatever field that may be, he shall be rewarded. there are a countless CSPs who are not known to the world (they did not achieve anything) while there are some known to everybody...even after getting commission people who won't put up a hard work will not get anything at the end of the day...

i agree with umer
css is only cleared after hard work and luck is the biggest factor in it
doctors and engineers are also citizens of Pakistan. they have the right to compete
doctors and engineers are not having a low status.they are at moderate level
infact i know in lahore certain doctors who are earning 1-1.5 lac daily:)
e.g a cardiac surgeon at doctor hospital is doing cabg operations 3-4 daily for 6 days a week. one operation earns the hospital a sum of 3 lac at least.you can imagine. a doctor at a hospital near stadium is having 100 patients daily and has a fee of 1200 per patient(it is really hard to get time(12pm-10pm) there. imagine 120000 daily is must for him). like this so many other examples.
similarly engineers are enjoying good pay, one of my friend(31yr old) is a n engineer working in govt. department on 17 scale and about to get promoted on 18 scale soon is earning well,he has also started his private company where he provides same service.on an average he is earning 70-90 thousand per month
only 5-10 % doctors or engineers are coming for css and most of them have a dream of being a csp from a very long time.

Doctors and Engineers who are unsatisfied from their existing privileges or their personal aptitude push them to join Civil Services.

[QUOTE=umarabbas;177685]i feel that "Respect and Power Khuda dayta hay"....CSS or Engineering or Presidency nai dayti....we should keep in mind, whosoever puts up any struggle in life, whatever field that may be, he shall be rewarded. there are a countless CSPs who are not known to the world (they did not achieve anything) while there are some known to everybody...even after getting commission people who won't put up a hard work will not get anything at the end of the day...[/QUOTE]

[B][FONT="Comic Sans MS"][SIZE="3"]'Watu Izzu Mantasha, Watu Zillu Mantasha'[/SIZE][/FONT][/B]


agreed, but power khuda ne shetan ko bhi diya hai, today the devil is dominant over the entire world. but inShallAh time will come................................................................................!

The only reason why doctors are applying for Css rather than pursuing their own feild is that at the moment there are no jobs for doctors anywhere in Pakistan,even if a doctor passes the Fcps-I exam it doesn't guarantee that you'll get a training post with stipend so thats why most of the poor Trainees have to work on honourary basis just to save their precious time.No-one is crazy to study subjects that he hasn't even heard of during his student life...

doctor and engineer's are most competent people
 

it is clear that our doctor and engineer's are most competent people comparison to all other fields.
especially those doctor and engineer's who attained their degree from government institutions. such as uet . kemc.fjmc.etc

so we can say that they are cream for our country.

otherwise those students who failed to attain their goals according to their wishes they choose css and want to be a csp officer.

in my idea a doctor or engineer is better csp officer other then those people.

csp officer having following priorities which not available to doctor or engineer's

1- vip protocol
2- residence facilities
3-vast relationship to indastrial and wealthy people
4- very easy to get black money
5- respect in family
6- his one letter or phone call give job to everyone
7-bright career for his children
8- very easy to go abroad
9-give proper time to his family
10- no security problem
11-easy chance to progress
12- be a member of elite class
13- respect by spouse
14- in some cases he interference in politice and help his family member
15- after retirement no job tention
16- healty personality and environment
17- not hardworking required. only signature required
18- enough staff (security guard,peon,computer operater, etc)
19-king of the field
20- respect, respect, respect,..................................

@Hafiz Sahib..

i personally believe the points that you have mentioned are true...but some of them are really out of line....for example the respect from the spouse wallah point...lol...i mean why would my wife love me for the fact that i am a CSP...anyways your point of view is respected...

but prolly during our life time these things will change....today's world does not run along colonial lines...things are changing and they are changing fast....

and yeah...if one has received education in the truest sense, he/she won't go for such things...because it does not suit your office, stature, education etc etc that you fall for stuff that is definitely not "De jure" but certainly "De Facto"...

[B][FONT="Comic Sans MS"]The appalling truth is that there is no future of medical or engineering in our country, every year hundreds of doctors are leaving this country. Because of future insecurity, thats y they decide to join CSS.[/FONT][/B]