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How Zardari can be equal to Hazrat Umar (R.A)? At least one must think before what she/she is saying in case of comparing one's personality and its case of Hazrat Umar (R.A).
She was not comparing zardari to great caliph(r.a) .

She meant that there is huge differnce between this system n that of caliphate.. Try to read between the lines.

Its my humble request, dont get emotional on every issue.

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@ those who r supporting views of fozia in any sense

Quran and Hazrat Umar (R.A) is more superior than Zardari and our Constitution.
How can our era be equal to that Golden period of Hazrat Umar (R.A)? we all know the high status of Hazrat Umar (R.A). How can he be equal to our politicans? (Astagfirullah)
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Un-Islamic Statement of PPP MNA Fozia Wahab


PPP MNA Fozia Wahab said that Hazrat Umar (R.A) was called in court because there was no constitution that time but only Quran.She said that in a Live Program of Dawn News on 22 May 2010.According to her point of view now
President Zardari can,t be called in the Court because there is a constitution now.
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are these those lines which you are telling us to try to read between the lines ?

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She was not comparing zardari to great caliph(r.a) .

She meant that there is huge differnce between this system n that of caliphate.. Try to read between the lines.

Its my humble request, dont get emotional on every issue.

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Brother what can a normal person think after reading this ?
We are not illiterate who get emotional after following media's views.
This statement clearly states what she meant to say.
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Immunity Clause: This clause has been present in the 1973 consitution since its genesis.

What does the clause state: It states that the President enjoys immunity from all types of prosecutions.

What does the Islam says: Rule of law shall prevail and even the head of state is equivalently subject to this law as a common man.

What did Fauzia Wahab do: Bring to our attention the obvious!

Inference: This clause is in principle contrary to the Islamic practice. Why have we kept quiet for so long and protest only when someone explicitly stated this to us. This could only mean one thing, we were too stupid to figure out this contradiction ourselves!
All molvis were quiet for more than 30 years and now this impetus!

What we should do: For all the people who are protesting now, shouldnt we point out all the unislamic clauses in our constitution and challenge them in court before someone else points out the obvious difference again and evoke Mulla's wrath?.

Harsh Reality: Pakistani government is not an Islamic governement for Islamic government is officially defined as the one which has been set in line with the principles that Prophet set forth during His regime in Madina.

There goes my 2 cents.
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She was not comparing zardari to great caliph(r.a) .

She meant that there is huge differnce between this system n that of caliphate.. Try to read between the lines.

Its my humble request, dont get emotional on every issue.
Dear i am not emotional and i am not a religious scholar too but we as muslim should condemn her view. Our politicians should think before comparing things.
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Origionally posted by Zoyee PPP MNA Fozia Wahab said that Hazrat Umar (R.A) was called in court because there was no constitution that time but only Quran.She said that in a Live Program of Dawn News on 22 May 2010.According to her point of view now President Zardari can,t be called in the Court because there is a constitution now.
She said In the time of Hazrat Umar (R.A) there was no constitution but Quran and in recent scenario there is constitution. So just think about her statement that how can Quran equal to constitution??

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he Justice Lawyers Group on Tuesday filed a petition against an SHO for not registering an FIR against Information Secretary Fauzia Wahab.

The convener of the lawyers group, Sohail Baig Noori accused Wahab of blasphemy by indulging in ‘loose talk’ culminating into a defamatory statement about Hazrat Omar. He alleged that Fauzia Wahab compared President Asif Ali Zardari to the caliph.

The group also accused Wahab of comparing the Pakistan Constitution to the Holy Quran which the lawyers said is blasphemous.

The Court ordered a notification to the SSP investigation to inquire into the incident before any such FIR is registered.

If the case is registered and goes to court, the maximum penalty, if convicted, for the crime is life imprisonment and the minimum is three years imprisonment.
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Do you think all these people are literate or emotional? If one condemn any unislamic statement then why we should called it emotional attitude?? Her statement is very clear, read it again.


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slam to all members,all matter and debate is simple if anyone want to learn it.Fouzia wahab committed a GUNAH-E-KABIRA..we people are so gullible or cant understand the real prospect of Islam then we should not blame the Islam or its views,fouzia did the same.She is part of boorish flunkies of Zardari and if anyone has iota of patriotism in his heart then he will not support this tribe.they are deriding the pillars of Islam we should deplore these words and its meaning what she wants to say about Islam.She dnt know what islam and what islam demand from us but they are condemning the islam by saying these words for sake of safety of their power.How shameful all over what she told or omit the poison..ub agar kisi angrez ne ye baat ki hoti to hamary mulk mein ehtejaj he na ruktay........ ! !
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PPP jiyalaas please don't prefer ppp over ISLAM now.
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What matters to me is not that this discussion is in vain, or one should support Ms. Fauzia or not, or the constitution and the Holy Quran or zardari and Sayyidna Hazrat Umar (R.A.) are comparable, or this issue should've been brought to courts or media or not, or bla bla bla...... What really matters is such mentally insane persons like Ms. Fauzia are ruling us. Good Luck everyone.
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What really matters is such mentally insane persons like Ms. Fauzia are ruling us.
Brother its us, the public, who has voted PPP to run the country and everyone knew before voting that who is going to get these votes. I'll tell you something. I belong to a rural area. The day when Miss Benazir Bhutto was murdered, men, women, children, old men, each and every person was sad from heart, even i personally was. But the women ? the women here started crying as if they had lost their sibling. Anyhow, the date of elections came. Most of the women said that they were going to vote for the PPPP, their men forbid them from doing so, some illiterate men also behaved like women from villages and cities here. Their statement at that time would be "hum benazir ki kabar ko vote daingay" What a supernatural statement and thinking it is. Nobody ever thought for a moment even that Shaheed Benazir will not get Paradise by voting for her grave, on the other hand these votes will directly go to the person who has spent his life in jail for his activities. this is how the jiyalas won but still had to form a coalition and then started acting like a leech and iare still not fed up of sucking blood of each and every class of the people of the country.
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What really matters is such mentally insane persons like Ms. Fauzia are ruling us.
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You explained well. I second your opinion.

@ mhmmdkashif

Inshort, PPP got votes just because of BB 's murder, people gave their vote in sympathy and finally they are in rule.


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