@Muser,

PPP, PML-N, MQM and JUI-F are the major political parties in Pakistan and they are dominant on the politics of Pakistan. So if we want to change this trend then people must come forward and form political parties to oppose their politics or reject.

But our middle class is reluctant - in other words allergic to join politics. Just a question will you accept interior ministry if offered? You will be accompanied by escort and lush push protocol in ministry after that you will be welcomed by suicide attacks. Abdur Rahman is active whereas Aaftab Ahmad Sherpao was not too much in front screen but see his conditon.

Zardari is criminal, Nawaz is industrialist, Altaf is gangster, ANP is pro-Indian, JUI-F is extremist, Imran Khan has no mandate, PML-Q is King's Party. It's like a dialogue of Devdas Movie, aik DiN politics aur democracy he ye country chor dega. Who will come forward?

Life's most persistent and urgent question is that what are you doing for others. So, what we did for the country and people. How many people are paying taxes honestly? It is common to steal electricity and natural gas. Did we protect state property?

He should bring his assets in Pakistan but we can't force someone to sacrifice their personal property for others. I am not sure about his foreign assets but he is not alone, every leader has assets abroad. Will you give your bike or car to the country? What you did for betterment of masses?

Let me remind you that when Benazir Bhutto embraced martyrdom then President take the charge of Co-Chairmanship of party. Mr. Zardari emerged as a national leader and calmed down the masses. He person can be changed and we can't condemn them for all the life for alleged wrongdoings. When Almighty Allah has opened the doors of forgiveness they who we are to pour insults on others whole life?

Swiss cases can't be opened against him due to immunity which is envisaged in Article 248 of the Constitution. People protect their national leaders and we are bent upon to hand over them to foreign countries blind folded in fake cases.

He is no doubt beneficiary of NRO but in politics sometimes they are forced to resort to such moves to get rid from political victimization. When courts deny justice and become a tool of dictators then it will be a fooly to rely on their justice which is always denied in past.

A person who captured power, a usurper who claimed to be the most educated, learned person and intellectual of the country left no stone unturned to destroy the very foundations of the country. Whereas as you alleged, an uneducated President purified the constitution, gave NFC Award, granted a name to a province and list goes on. Mr. Zardari is a down to earth person, a benign and caring ruler.

I respect all the members alike and expect same in response. All the members are equal here no one is above others.

Never quit in life, rather stick to your point of view if you think that you are right. Wahi ka'am kre jo aapko sahi kre.

It is common here, do participate here and share your views. At least it will be helpful for your writing practice and extracting ideas from your mind.

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No matter how fast i run or how far i go it wont escape me, pain, misery, emptiness.

Well,Your childish arguments have made me laugh.I can write volumes on your given views but I dont want to indulge myself in an inconclusive debate.Just a piece of free advice for you

Blind faith in your leaders,or in anything,will get you killed.

Bruce Springsteen

Regards,

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prince geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.......... what r u saying? for God sake ,,,,, these r not political parties at all but cliques and factions in reality. if css aspirants call them political parties then we should never mourn over the behavior of the middle class defective electorates who r always trapped by false promises and demagogues manifestos . i m not living in utopia but i feel great pain for my beloved motherland under the the leadership dilemma.the violent tendencies prevalent in our political system is the direct outcome of the socio-political and economic deprivations of common masses by those who r at the helm of affairs since the the creation of Pakistan. of course, military regimes r also equally responsible, no government has paid enough heed to bring silent revolution through education which has further added fuel to the fire. madrassah education with no formal ie material education will produce suicidal bombers and fossilized ideas only and will drag us towards violence ,extremism, fundamentalism and , above all, terrorism.

Sir, Crown prince is explaining his point of view in a very logical way and with proofs, if u have something to say in ur favour come up with arguments don't laugh. It is not an inconclusive debate but a very informative one.

Regards,

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It's lack of faith that makes people afraid of meeting challenges, and I believe in myself!!!!

You avoid all question raised about your Favorite Personality. Your comments are much like the speech of Zardari Sahib, -a Jiala Style- lacking facts and focus:

My point of view in the whole thread:

The NAB and courts record contains four murder cases and 13 corruption cases against him, in which he could not prove his innocence in 11 years and feigned illness to avoid appearance in court, thereby prolonging the proceedings.

He has escaped conviction through the unconstitutional and immoral NRO, which has turned out to have been an instant cure for all his illnesses.

However the Surrey Palace case stands proven, together with the Swiss money-laundering cases, in which 60 million dollars have been unearthed. His assets abroad are estimated at least two billion dollars, without any visible source of income.

That's why the opening of swiz cases is a nightmare for him.

He is running the country in a mafia style by giving public positions, institutions, money, medals to his royals and sometimes he addressed them "Mere Jail k Sathi". This country is not the personal property of Zardari at all.

Your point of view:
International media is misleading
National Media is wrong
NAB is wrong
Courts are wrong
Columnists and Analysts are wrong
Anchor persons are conspiring
Opposition is faulty
Transparency International is Bias
PILDAT is wrong
International rating agencies are misleading
Popularity surveys are conspiracy

And Crown Prince is right


So any debate in this regard is futile and a zero sum game. I come to conclusion "Let's agree to disagree".

I respect your emotions and liking for President Asif Ali Zardari. If any of my comment hurt you I am sorry for that. Allah Hafiz

Sincere Regards,

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“There is no God but You (Allah Almighty), You are far exalted and above all weaknesses, and I was indeed the wrongdoer”. AL-QURAN

The way thread is proceeding, i believe we shall sift out the reason "why are we becoming violent nation?"

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