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Its really hard to understand our nation.
On the one hand,our people are asking for democracy when it happens to come they shout over its process and call Hub-e-Watan Generals for revolution,Do you people know to whom Hub-e-watan Generals we should say?.On the other hand,our people,media,columnist,politicians,and senior Tv anchors are saying that Marshal-law is much better: is this derth of thinking or uneducation? Before blaming Zardari,why don't you people blame your nation for choosing him for presidency? Why don't you blame yourselves? Did Zardari get votes from aliens? Can a jagirdaar be remained as feudal if you people don't follow him? Have you all forgotten the same media,columnist,Tv anchors were talking about democracy then why their statements have been changed? Quote:
He has remained 8 years in gaol. how many years,nawaz,Altaf ,and musharraf have been sent behind the bars? I know much better than you the reputation of Mumtaz Bhutto,how he deals with people and how he abuses women rights is not hidden from anyone particularly from those who belong to his area. |
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Dear Waqar Abro
Its is not Mumtaz Bhutto alone, If these comments and analysis come out from Mumtaz Bhutto only, one must ignore these comments. Here is a long list:
International media and anlysts Pakistani media and analysts Transparency International PILDAT Anchor Persons Opposition and many many more... Democracy - If People have elected him, they have a right to held him accountable, Criticize him, demand withdrawal. Why their is much annoyance on criticism. Comparison: You make comparative comments about Zardari, Sharifs, Altaf Hussain. I agree if any of them is corrupt held him accountable, criticize him. I never advocate for their innocence because I know they are not as well. But for the God sake do justice to your conscience. If Zardari is corrupt call him beyond party affiliations, regional biases and beyond likes and dislikes. Zardari is facing criticism because he is in power and he hasn't deliver, he hasn't abandoned his old legacy.
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Transparency Int. has lost credibility because its Pakistan based head is highly criticized due to his biased research and reports and all these reports are denied by legislators on the grounds that if there is NAB, NA, SC, and other mechanism of check and balance then why to rely on the office made reports of such orgs who have no credibility due to their biased and partial reports and research work. Quote:
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What do u think about Obama? Why he has not been criticized yet? Don't you know spoil system in America? In a nutshell,i was meant to say before blaming Zardari who don't you people blame yourselves for giving your votes to wrong person? Do you know how international media works? how many times kashmir issue has been aired by so called international free media? Pakistan media: give it a damn.it even does not know well about PR and journalism concept prevail in the mass communication. Anchor persons : you want me to show their videos in which they are puffing cigrates with politicians,dancing with black water agent? Do you know what mumtaz bhutto did with muhajirs in his tenure? Opposition or friendly opposition or are u talking about such politicians whose party members had said once they did zinna briza and one of their member theft credit card for buying jewellery. Brother all are choor koi bhi acha nahi tu phir ek koo hee blame kyu kya jata hay?
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Friends the best answer of this discussion lies in a Hadith in which our Holy Prophet Hazrat Mohammad PBUH has said that the rulers of you are from you, they will be just like you, if the masses are pious there leaders will be pious and if the masses are corrupt so would be their leaders. So if we want sincere leadership we should try to do good deeds ourselves first. Thats it.
Regards,
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Roman and French Revolutions,China's democracy rally and Abraham Licoln's Democracy are also examples of nations.
A Nation chooses the sort of gorvernment.
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Here is how the good, the bad & the ugly get elected in our so-called democratic set up and how they are brought into power by party loyalists.
A doctor friend of mine & his influential plus 'educated' family was campaigning & supporting Maulana Diesel in Bannu in 2008, I taunted; 'Tum logo ko iss bande ke ilawa aur koi banda nahi mila tha support karne ko?' His frank reply was; 'mara hum tu ussi ko support kareinge jis se hame kuch milega'. And it dawned upon me a practical reality of party politics & the vehement loyalities = )
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Dear Crown Prince
When one feel everyone else is wrong then he need introspection. How you can say that he is altogether innocent from corruption? If he is innocent then why: He had gone for the immoral, illegal and clumsy deal of NRO Why the opening of swiz cases is a nightmare for him Why he couldn't prove himself innocent during 11 years in jail until NRO given him clean chit Question of his literary competence he even don't know the spelling of GOD and President, what else one can say. I admit that being a nation we are bad choosers, we are illiterate, we are backward and we are third world. But I also believe that we are not so pathetic, we are not subject to such disgrace.
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Just give me an answer, I will love mr,Zardari and this format of democracy.
Why his legal or illegal assets in aborad, why not in pakistan? Now dont tell me that since ABC have assests in abroad, so he is entitled to do so. Just remember two wrongs doesnt make a right. Dear waqar,being from interior sindh,You and I know very well how votes are bought and influenced so dont put blame on massess for enthroning wrong person.
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i m sorry C P....
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if you are feeling hurt by my comments then i want to say sorry.my comments were not exclusively for you. i am against personal attacks.and i have never indulged in this kind of activity.But if you have felt any thing bad then remove it. I have great respect for you.you are a well reputed member here.i am nothing as compared to you. And one more thing..i think the more i speak here the more i create controversy so from now on i will not speak. Its bye from me.i dont want to malign the environment of this forum here. I will surely miss talking with zardari i mean crown prince. dont be angry again look you have his avatar now. P.S. never remove it.OK. Plz mods dont delete my post.it is last one and very important. Thanks. |
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