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We will found a lot of cases in which holy prophet forgive his enemies. But give me such example which is similar to the present case(and holy prophet forgive such person) while there is a lot of examples what we should do in such case..
When our beloved holy prophet(p.b.u.h) had forgiven his arch enemies, who are we stone-hearted people who want to kill a mother of five kids without any definitive proof.



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After killing someone, the killer says that he has done that non intensionally. Should we give him any punishment or not.
And who knows she is right about her intention. She might be doing this to get an escape from execution.
Have you ever thought,Who will have to face the music if we hang this lady on this charge and she proves innocent on the day of judgement? Verily Allah(S.W.A) only knows secrets of heart.If she is denying and craving for mercy, make pardon as your trade.

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When our beloved holy prophet(p.b.u.h) had forgiven his arch enemies, who are we stone-hearted people who want to kill a mother of five kids without any definitive proof.
He forgave his arch enemies but had he ever forgiven anyone which we can use as an example for this case.
And when she has admitted herself that she has used such language against Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) what the further proof you want.




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Have you ever thought,Who will have to face the music if we hang this lady on this charge and she proves innocent on the day of judgement? Verily Allah(S.W.A) only knows secrets of heart.If she is denying and craving for mercy, make pardon as your trade.
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Yes ALLAH only knows secrets of heart therefore we can't say that she has done this intentionally or unintentionally.
We should make decision on the bases of evidence and when she is admitting herself in court that she broke the law then who is gonna prove her innocent on judgement day?
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He forgave his arch enemies but had he ever forgiven anyone which we can use as an example for this case.
And when she has admitted herself that she has used such language against Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) what the further proof you want.






Yes ALLAH only knows secrets of heart therefore we can't say that she has done this intentionally or unintentionally.
We should make decision on the bases of evidence and when she is admitting herself in court that she broke the law then who is gonna prove her innocent on judgement day?
I am writing this piece for white leopards consumption, knowing fully well that it would not affect him the least.

As for your so-called admission of guilt, what do you expect somebody (that too a female) to do when a raging mob of fanatics like you storms your house, plucks you out by force and forces a confession? Do you seriously believe that had she said she did not do it the mob would have believed her?

By the way, any so-called confession was also accompanied by a repentence. When Allah says the doors of repentence are not closed untill death arrives, who the hell are you or those of your like to judge her?

You might have heard of Hazrat Ali's act of not killing a non-muslim in the battle of Khyber solely because he had spit in Hazrat Ali's face, because doing so would have included a hint of personal vengeance and would no longer be an act purely for Islam. Asia Bibi's case has PERSONAL written ALL OVER IT (Dispute over drinking water). Or are you so naive to not even understand this much?
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I am writing this piece for white leopards consumption, knowing fully well that it would not affect him the least.
Yes you are right. I am not gonna convince with you because what i am asking for no of you people, who are supporting Asia bibi, gave me a single example which i can consider as a base to forgive her. But you can't because their is none.

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By the way, any so-called confession was also accompanied by a repentence. When Allah says the doors of repentence are not closed untill death arrives, who the hell are you or those of your like to judge her?

You might have heard of Hazrat Ali's act of not killing a non-muslim in the battle of Khyber solely because he had spit in Hazrat Ali's face, because doing so would have included a hint of personal vengeance and would no longer be an act purely for Islam. Asia Bibi's case has PERSONAL written ALL OVER IT (Dispute over drinking water). Or are you so naive to not even understand this much?
Yes i have read he above incident. If Asia bibi said anything to me personally ALLAH knows better how i give response to her. But it doesn't belong to anyone personally its the matter of religion and i will not do any decision based on my "intellectualness" i will follow the path given by holy prophet.

And if she did not say anything then why she accepted it in front of court???
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Yes you are right. I am not gonna convince with you because what i am asking for no of you people, who are supporting Asia bibi, gave me a single example which i can consider as a base to forgive her. But you can't because their is none.



Yes i have read he above incident. If Asia bibi said anything to me personally ALLAH knows better how i give response to her. But it doesn't belong to anyone personally its the matter of religion and i will not do any decision based on my "intellectualness" i will follow the path given by holy prophet.

And if she did not say anything then why she accepted it in front of court???
I'd expected no better from you. WITHOUT COUNTERING MY POINTS, you start babbling about religion and stuff. No wonder you can't do any better.

By the way, work on your english. There is a lot of room for improvement.
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Can you please convey to us the gist of that article? Urdu is not my mother tongue...
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I'd expected no better from you. WITHOUT COUNTERING MY POINTS, you start babbling about religion and stuff. No wonder you can't do any better.
I did not counter your points because you don't have one....

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I think the law shd b ammended instead of repealing bz being a state based on islamic ideology its our duty n top most priority to protect islam n its honour.V have already shown our tolerance in sooooo much unrightful n unjustified being done to all the muslim countries in the world by the non muslim community bt the honour of our beloved Prophet (PBUH) shd never b compromised at least in our own country.however it shd b made certain that the law shd nt provide room to any one 4 misuse......
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Even orthodox scholars do admit the possibility that this law might have been misused.However they contend that misuse of a good law is not sufficent justification to repeal it.What is the opinion of the forum
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