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Nangarhar Attack-22-02-2011


http://www.youtube.com/v/cELRYVoj1jI


A Pakistani was involved in this attack and according to an Afghan friend of mine they want justice. These are his words

"I want the Pakistani terrorist captured in jalalabad to be hanged in public, support the cause tomorrow it can be any of us lets not let karzai forgive him and kiss him in his forehead, I want justice"



I don't think that terrorist belongs to any country, religion, cast or creed. But still how a human being can be so brutal
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Its simply disgusting. They are not human, they deserve no leniency. But there must be some inhuman incidents in their own lives that made them so wild.
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Its simply disgusting. They are not human. Janwar hain, deserve no leniency. But there must be some inhuman incidents in their own lives that made them so wild.
U are right ...i was a supporter of Taliban but now m not . Something bad happens to u does mean that u get the license or legitimacy to kill Innocent human being indiscriminately.

If they want their revenge this is not the right way or these are not the right people whom they are killing
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Islam is the religion of peace and justice. If taliban are killing the innocent people for justice that it is not what they think. Who permit them to kill human being for their own purpose not for Islam. Islam is the name of tolerance, justice, equality, fraternity, brotherhood, safety of life and property and economic justice. Life is the precious gift of Almighty Allah to the creatures and no one can snatch the right of freedom of life and property. Millitents bomb blast in mosques, holy places, shrines and even in Religious & spiritual places where countless innocent people die in the revenge of their petty interests. This kind of terrorism proved to be achill's heel in the rapid development of Pakistan and Muslim world.
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may GOD have mercy on us all.

madam,

was that person in the video a PAKISTANI taliban?

as far as negotiating with taliban is concerned..no way it should be done.

negotiation is a process which in its simplest form can be understood as a process between the two parties in which both the parties gain something and loose something.
my question to anyone who is in favour to anyone out there in favour of negotiation is that can we accept any of their demands?.and if yes what demands they can put forward?are we aware of it.


surrendring to the demands of a militant organisation do not seems to be a reasonable approach.it can have fatal consequences.

so what to do?

wipe them out?
yes it is an option but it is not that easy to execute.

i think we should handle it wisely.we should begin the negotiation process but just to use it as a cover(be like americans,double standard)..and in the disguise of negotiation we can gain some precious time and can devise a strategy and a lot lot of other things.i have them in my mind.but negotiation should only be used just as a bait.
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U are right ...i was a supporter of Taliban but now m not . Something bad happens to u does mean that u get the license or legitimacy to kill Innocent human being indiscriminately.

If they want their revenge this is not the right way or these are not the right people whom they are killing
U were a supporter of taliban sis??

Well a terrorist has no creed,caste or religion

And you are absolutely right,If some thing wrong has happened to some one it dosent mean he holds the right to kill any one he wants, on his own terms.

In my opinnion these talibans arent the one from Afghanistan,these ones are American talibans


Haven't you noticed since Raymond Davies was sent behind the bars we havent heard of even a single bomb blast or a drone attack.This isnt just a fluke

There is some connection between both
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lets pray for our Armed forces.may Allah give them the strength to eradicate this evil once for all.
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Islam is the religion of peace and justice. If taliban are killing the innocent people for justice that it is not what they think. Who permit them to kill human being for their own purpose not for Islam. Islam is the name of tolerance, justice, equality, fraternity, brotherhood, safety of life and property and economic justice. Life is the precious gift of Almighty Allah to the creatures and no one can snatch the right of freedom of life and property. Millitents bomb blast in mosques, holy places, shrines and even in Religious & spiritual places where countless innocent people die in the revenge of their petty interests. This kind of terrorism proved to be achill's heel in the rapid development of Pakistan and Muslim world.
They think we are not Muslims, and we think that they are not Muslims . I don't know who is Muslim and who is not...Who is serving Islam and who is harming Islam ...

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may GOD have mercy on us all.

madam,

was that person in the video a PAKISTANI taliban?

as far as negotiating with taliban is concerned..no way it should be done.

negotiation is a process which in its simplest form can be understood as a process between the two parties in which both the parties gain something and loose something.
my question to anyone who is in favour to anyone out there in favour of negotiation is that can we accept any of their demands?.and if yes what demands they can put forward?are we aware of it.


surrendring to the demands of a militant organisation do not seems to be a reasonable approach.it can have fatal consequences.

so what to do?

wipe them out?
yes it is an option but it is not that easy to execute.

i think we should handle it wisely.we should begin the negotiation process but just to use it as a cover(be like americans,double standard)..and in the disguise of negotiation we can gain some precious time and can devise a strategy and a lot lot of other things.i have them in my mind.but negotiation should only be used just as a bait.
Nice questions .
Tlibans want the control of area and they are waiting for U.S withdraw. They need undisputed , unchallenged , unequivocal, control of Afghanistan. And for this they are not reluctant to kill the innocent civilians , just to pressurize the govt and other stake holders.

But here we need to differentiate among those who are the big fishes and those who are being used by these big fishes. Trust me, most of them don't know why are they fighting ?? Sometimes, they fight for revenge , sometimes for money, sometimes their rebellion nature compelled the to join such ppl. It varies from person to person. But my point is. we must understand the core issues of such ppl and instead of wasting hell lot money on bombing and killing them , we must persuade such people through peaceful means. And this will be catastrophic for those big fishes who are using such ppl for their personal gains.
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Military is making BIG mistake by putting talibans behind bars. They should shot them at the spot.
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Military is making BIG mistake by putting talibans behind bars. They should shot them at the spot.
The military is actually supporting the Gulbadins, the Haqqanis and the Mullah Omar group. These three groups are hidden by the Pakistani agencies in North Waziristan and Quetta. That is precisely why American drone attacks take place on North Waziristan and that is also precisely why the Pakistani army doesn't begin its operations there.

The Taliban groups that attack the Pakistani forces (as well as NATO forces) include the Mehsud Taliban, the Asian Tigers, their affiliates in Orakzai, Khyber and Bajaur, the Fazlullah group, etc. However, the Haqqanis and Gulbadins especially have benefited tremendously from the sanctuary and logistical support provided to them by the Pakistani agencies and military.

So why do we support them? Our military establishment supports them because it is widely believed that these groups will be part of any post-NATO government in Afghanistan and will eventually take over the whole country. In order to get strategic depth and in order to curb Pashtun/Afghan nationalist visavis the Durrand Line issue, it's imperative to have our boys ruling in Kabul. When our establishment uses these tribesmen to commit such acts in Afghanistan, it gets an added 'benefit' from this - the Afghan/Pashtun people (the Pashtuns of Kabul, Kandahar, etc) begin go despise the Afghan/Pashtun living in Pakistan (Peshawar, Quetta, FATA, etc).

"Taliban" is not just one group or ideology, it is a blanket term used for dozens of separate groups, all of which have their own end-goals. Make no mistake, we are involved in this.
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