A Speech on 6 March, 1946:

"Let us go back to our holy book the Quran; let us revert to the Hadith and the great traditions of Islam, which have every thing in them for our guidance if we correct interpret them and follow our great holy book the Quran."

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Quaid was not struggling to get a homeland for himself. He was struggling to get homeland on behalf of hundreds of thousands of muslims. Demanding a country for muslims doesn't mean that non-muslims couldn't live in that country. Obviously Islamic-state model absolutely allows this and the same is evident from the charter of Madina and history of subsequent Muslim states where minorities used to live peacefully under muslim rule.

Our great leader was definitely not an angel. Although he was secular to some extent in his personal life, yet he loved Islam and Islamic model of democratic state. He could have kept his personal life secular without demanding a separate muslim state. He could have enjoyed this life by staying abroad where he enjoyed every luxury of life. So being a secular in personal life doesn't mean wanting a secular country for a large no. of people. Obviously, he was not questioned of being secular after the inception of Islamic state.


On February 21, 1948, in an address to the officers and men of the 5th Heavy and 6th Light Regiments in Malir, Karachi, he said:

"You have to stand guard over the development and maintenance of Islamic democracy, Islamic social justice and the equality of manhood in your own native soil. With faith, discipline and selfless devotion to duty, there is nothing worthwhile that you cannot achieve."

Islamic state model is based on equality and social justice. It should not be confused that Islamic state enforces islamic laws on its citizens and secular state does not. Obviously, Islamic state laws cannot be against the teachings of Islam. And laws of Islam are best for humanity at large. History is replete with such examples where Islam gave non-muslims living uder muslim rule freedom of speech, freedom of worship, freedom of every basic human right. This miracle of Islamic state cannot be found in any other political-religious model including secular model.

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I endorse.

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Adress to Americans on Radio
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I endorse what u have said but tell me islamic legislature,teachings and systems can be moulded as islamic caliphate,islamic monarchy and islamic democracy ... this is what we can say ijtehad?? if this is right then islam obviously show flexibility .but why we could not be able to implement our own innovation.i mean by saying this -- our own political system .why Quaid has fused islam with democracy ??? and look below the post of strain..

liberty, equality and fraternity."


islam has fused political system with religion.what quaid wanted is a secular state --not islamic

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@SADIA SHAFIQ
I think you are having some trouble of understanding two terms "Secular" and "Islamic". May i ask you to please expain your concept of "Secular state" and "Islamic State". This will help us further discuss the tpoic.

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I wonder how you have concluded from the above post that Quaid wanted a Secular State…. Come on! This saying of the quaid is exactly opposite of what you have said. You are saying that Islam has fused political system with religion and that quaid wanted a secular state…. Ok if this is true and if quaid knew it then why quaid referred to the Holy Quran, Islamic teachings time and time again while discussing the purpose of creating Pakistan? Why Quaid wanted to base laws of the country on Islamic principles? Or more precisely what was the need of even referring to the religion; Islam? There is no point in confusing Islamic Legislature, teachings and systems as Islamic Califphate, Islamic Monarchy or Islamic Democracy. Whatever meanings these terms may have… the baseline is that Islam is not a religion only… it is a deen…it is a complete code of life… which must have to be implemented under any system for the welfare of humanity… and then whatever name you give to this system… it will be actually Islamic system of governance not a secular system. And do you know that Islam embodies rules and guidance for all aspects of life including politics… Religion makes only a certain percentage of Islamic teachings… As such, Quranic legislation governs religious obligations as well as legal relations or legal transactions. Islamic law draws a distinction between ibadat (“devotional obligations”) and muamalat (“legal relations”). Ibadat include the five pillars of Islam, or religious obligations, while muamalat includes family law (marriage, divorce, child custody, inheritance and wills), contracts, torts and property law; the law of crime and punishment; and the law of war and peace.

It would be pertinent to remove another misconception which people might have in understating the word Khalifa. Khilifa means "representation". Man, according to Islam, is the representative of Allah on earth, His vice-gerent; that is to say, by virtue of the powers delegated to him by Allah, and within the limits prescribed, he is required to exercise Divine authority. Now is this not made part of our constitution as preamble of objective resolution? Does every president and prime minister of Islamic Country while taking oath not testify this? So every leader which takes oath under this testimony is virtually a Khalifa.

I would like to end my argument on the following saying of Iqbal:

Jalal-e-paadshahi ho, ya jamhoori tamasha ho
Juda ho deen syasat say, tou reh jaati hai chengezi

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Although i could not hear any comments from most of the members (who were part of this discussion earlier, supporting other side of the argument), still i would continue supporting my point of view, InshAllah.

Karachi 1948

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plz re-read the above line --it implies that there are more then 50 khalifaz on our earth..is it ??there are more then 50 islamic states in the world and u mean all are caliphs?? then what is the difference between saudi shahs and irani ayotolllas ..and what about other leaders of islamic state??YOU mean all are caliphs.. the u must have some knowledge of islamic caliphate system because khalifa should be one at one time ... give me any example from history where there were more then one caliphs on the earth..



first i what have said it was the interpretations as quaid did not wanted islamic system fused with religion and you urself admitting what i have said as it is complete code of life ,then why democracy is intoduced ?? sysytem matters more and system governs ..how you can say system is not matter of oue concern.democracy meaninig in one word is freedom... And islam did not give us freedom but to some extent but with conditions ... if Quaid had stressed on holy mattres and he wanted Islamic state then first order after the creation of pakistan should be declaration od islamic state and pakistan would not have become islamice republic in 1973.objective resolution testify those as PM`s AND PRESIDENTS not caliphs...plz share refernce if objective resolutionn state prime ministers are caliphs and also objective resolution had been paased only in pakistan not in all islamic countries

i have no misconception .i only presented what u have posted ...islamic state means where all laws are modified according to islamic legislature and under the rule of ijtehad and secular state means the implementation of all rules which are islamic as well as accorded to world legislature ..i.e i will say women can not divorce to islamic law, but acc to pakistani law she can and there are many more things which can be given as an example

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You are very emotional about what you think is the truth, which is not a bad thing. But it appears to me that you have done very little "reading", if any, as far as an Islamic State and system is concerned and as far as the personality and life of Quaid-e-Azam is concerned (You seem to know only the Jinnah that was).

If you read the brother's post that you have now presented a critique on, you will realize that the manner in which he defines caliph, there can not be any caliph at the moment in the world. Allow me to elaborate.

"Khilifa means "representation". Man, according to Islam, is the representative of Allah on earth, His vice-gerent; that is to say, by virtue of the powers delegated to him by Allah, and within the limits prescribed, he is required to exercise Divine authority."

If a person says "Taqat ka sar chashma awam hain" then he automatically denies Allah S.W.T's authority over men, hence rendering his election as a representative (khalifa) invalid, he may be a Khalifa of Men but not a representative (khalifa) of Allah. He also has to do exactly as Allah S.W.T has ordained as not legislate according to his will or that of the people. This aught to make things clear to you. If it doesn't then read a little more into Islamic system.

You have not interpreted Quaid's words but you've mis-interpreted them. Let me ask you a question... How many times did the Quaid used the word "Secular"??? Did he even use it one? Of course not, because he had nothing to do with such filth.

Quaid spoke of Islam and Islamic law on umpteen occasions and he stood for it, not secularism. Your argument that although he spoke of Religion as the guiding light but he wanted secularism is simply ridiculous. You need to study a lot!