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Here comes more!!!
A Speech on 6 March, 1946:
"Let us go back to our holy book the Quran; let us revert to the Hadith and the great traditions of Islam, which have every thing in them for our guidance if we correct interpret them and follow our great holy book the Quran." |
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Our great leader was definitely not an angel. Although he was secular to some extent in his personal life, yet he loved Islam and Islamic model of democratic state. He could have kept his personal life secular without demanding a separate muslim state. He could have enjoyed this life by staying abroad where he enjoyed every luxury of life. So being a secular in personal life doesn't mean wanting a secular country for a large no. of people. Obviously, he was not questioned of being secular after the inception of Islamic state. On February 21, 1948, in an address to the officers and men of the 5th Heavy and 6th Light Regiments in Malir, Karachi, he said: "You have to stand guard over the development and maintenance of Islamic democracy, Islamic social justice and the equality of manhood in your own native soil. With faith, discipline and selfless devotion to duty, there is nothing worthwhile that you cannot achieve." Islamic state model is based on equality and social justice. It should not be confused that Islamic state enforces islamic laws on its citizens and secular state does not. Obviously, Islamic state laws cannot be against the teachings of Islam. And laws of Islam are best for humanity at large. History is replete with such examples where Islam gave non-muslims living uder muslim rule freedom of speech, freedom of worship, freedom of every basic human right. This miracle of Islamic state cannot be found in any other political-religious model including secular model.
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As promised!!!
Adress to Americans on Radio
27th Feb., 1948
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(English) "Today in this huge gathering you have honoured me by entrusting the duty to unfurl the flag of the Muslim League, the flag of Islam, for you can not separate the Muslim League from Islam. Many people misunderstand us when we talk of Islam particularly our Hindu friends. When we say `This flag is the flag of Islam' they think we are introducing religion into politics- a fact of which we are proud. Islam gives us a complete code. It is not only religion but it contains laws, philosophy and politics. In fact, it contains everything that matters to a man from morning to night. When we talk of Islam we take it as an all-embracing word. We do not mean any ill will. The foundation of our Islamic code is that we stand for liberty, equality and fraternity." islam has fused political system with religion.what quaid wanted is a secular state --not islamic
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back to square one!!
@SADIA SHAFIQ
I think you are having some trouble of understanding two terms "Secular" and "Islamic". May i ask you to please expain your concept of "Secular state" and "Islamic State". This will help us further discuss the tpoic.
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It would be pertinent to remove another misconception which people might have in understating the word Khalifa. Khilifa means "representation". Man, according to Islam, is the representative of Allah on earth, His vice-gerent; that is to say, by virtue of the powers delegated to him by Allah, and within the limits prescribed, he is required to exercise Divine authority. Now is this not made part of our constitution as preamble of objective resolution? Does every president and prime minister of Islamic Country while taking oath not testify this? So every leader which takes oath under this testimony is virtually a Khalifa. I would like to end my argument on the following saying of Iqbal: Jalal-e-paadshahi ho, ya jamhoori tamasha ho Juda ho deen syasat say, tou reh jaati hai chengezi
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As promised!!
Although i could not hear any comments from most of the members (who were part of this discussion earlier, supporting other side of the argument), still i would continue supporting my point of view, InshAllah.
Karachi 1948
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first i what have said it was the interpretations as quaid did not wanted islamic system fused with religion and you urself admitting what i have said as it is complete code of life ,then why democracy is intoduced ?? sysytem matters more and system governs ..how you can say system is not matter of oue concern.democracy meaninig in one word is freedom... And islam did not give us freedom but to some extent but with conditions ... if Quaid had stressed on holy mattres and he wanted Islamic state then first order after the creation of pakistan should be declaration od islamic state and pakistan would not have become islamice republic in 1973.objective resolution testify those as PM`s AND PRESIDENTS not caliphs...plz share refernce if objective resolutionn state prime ministers are caliphs and also objective resolution had been paased only in pakistan not in all islamic countries i have no misconception .i only presented what u have posted ...islamic state means where all laws are modified according to islamic legislature and under the rule of ijtehad and secular state means the implementation of all rules which are islamic as well as accorded to world legislature ..i.e i will say women can not divorce to islamic law, but acc to pakistani law she can and there are many more things which can be given as an example
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If you read the brother's post that you have now presented a critique on, you will realize that the manner in which he defines caliph, there can not be any caliph at the moment in the world. Allow me to elaborate. "Khilifa means "representation". Man, according to Islam, is the representative of Allah on earth, His vice-gerent; that is to say, by virtue of the powers delegated to him by Allah, and within the limits prescribed, he is required to exercise Divine authority." If a person says "Taqat ka sar chashma awam hain" then he automatically denies Allah S.W.T's authority over men, hence rendering his election as a representative (khalifa) invalid, he may be a Khalifa of Men but not a representative (khalifa) of Allah. He also has to do exactly as Allah S.W.T has ordained as not legislate according to his will or that of the people. This aught to make things clear to you. If it doesn't then read a little more into Islamic system. Quote:
Quaid spoke of Islam and Islamic law on umpteen occasions and he stood for it, not secularism. Your argument that although he spoke of Religion as the guiding light but he wanted secularism is simply ridiculous. You need to study a lot! |
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