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Well Islam says we should be educated, govt is trying to make us educated.

Islam is a moderate religion but is strict to wrong doers, so govt is also strict to wrong doers.

Islam is givig importance to the women and govt is doing the same.

Govt is pretty moderate. It is totally out of question that it need to be more moderate for anybody.
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Well Islam says we should be educated, govt is trying to make us educated.
I'll be content if you come up with the Educational system of Islam and then compare it with the points i've mentioned in the previous post.

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Islam is a moderate religion but is strict to wrong doers, so govt is also strict to wrong doers.
Ok, how many wrong doers are being dealt in such stringent way????

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Islam is givig importance to the women and govt is doing the same.
Is it Islamic way of giving importance. If so then why govt is failed to stop 'karokari'?

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Govt is pretty moderate. It is totally out of question that it need to be more moderate for anybody.
I'll accept this moderation of Govt only if you answer the questions i've placed above.



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Thnx for the appreciation.

And yes i agree that enlightenment is something 'internal'. this internal moderation can come only with the help of education (to develop positive thinking) and by providing the environment in which this positive thinking can be practiced accordingly. Such environment is very necessary coz, if only thinking is positive and behaviour is negative (as the thinking couldn't get the opportunity to be practiced) then the net effect of the effort will be null.


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Well Qurat what is this? i dunno i am failing to elucidate or u r not getting me.

Anyways i am takling about general principles of Islam like Zakat for circulation of money, education whould be religious as well as worldly education, rights for women, Islamic democracy but a bit moderanized too, etc.

I wanna give example of Bugti's case for justifying the statement that he is hitting the wrong doers. There r many other examples but i am relying on it for the time being.

Govt will probably stop karokari if they succeeded in awaring and educating the masses. They ar devising funtional plans in this regard.

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this policy of moderation is really the need of the hour... but what it really needs is to incorporate the values of accountability and social efficiency in that doctrine.. so far this slogan has been merre rhetoric with practically no dent at the basal levels of society.... exactly how to achieve that in the least period of time with maximum effect is the million dollar question!!!
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Well Qurat what is this? i dunno i am failing to elucidate or u r not getting me.
Oh honey! don't get so harsh on me, you know it's the way we use to interract on such issues. Hope you don't mind. Now smile, coz it increases your face value.

As far as Musharraf govt is concerned, we'll certainly have differnce in opinion, and that's not something bad. The day i'll have the seat of president, i'll try my best to keep the masses happy, so just keep your eyes on near future.


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Any body Optamistic abt Enlighten Moderation
Or just we are looking one side of the Picture?
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Or just we are looking one side of the Picture?
Please clearly identify the other sides of the pictures, we'll surely love to discuss all possible aspects.

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Yeah we are pretty optimistic because optimism is the very first step to whow willingness towards some working thngs. We need to be optimistic and pragmatic in this regard.

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