dear brother evidences of all these funding can be proved but it is out of my authority
2 nd on KB just balm game playing by the provincial Govt and politicians
all the logic's have you given against the KB ,how many out of them you have personly surveyed and examine???
if we talk about the common peoples whats there desires for a peaceful life?????

Kala bagh dam was proposed by world bank during his experts visits in 1967.According to them the present dams will stop providing the energy demands by 1990.And before 1990 kalabagh dam is must for pakistan.Now 2012 and we still not having kalabagh dam after 23 years of the expiry date.

Capacity of Kalabagh Dam: 3,800 MW

in 1991 CCI(council of common interest) approved the project .

December 2004: General Pervez Musharraf, President of Pakistan, announced that he would build the dam in the larger interest of Pakistan.

29, November 2012: The Lahore High Court (LHC) on Thursday ordered the federal government to construct the Kalabagh dam.

kalabagh dam should not be the last source . 19 sites are declared suitable by the experts for dams. few of them having more generation capacity than KBD .Its also a fact that KBD has an effect on kpk and sind.

AS view of cheif engineer from wapda

Former Chief Engineer WAPDA, Engr. Shahr-i-Yar Khan has claimed that the construction of Kalabagh Dam is not suitable for NWFP which will cause unnecessary wastage of huge funds as compared to many other suitable sites of dams proposed on Indus river. Shahr-i-Yar Khan, who had served on various positions of WAPDA, besides getting training abroad, highlight various issues related to the Kalabagh Dam construction at length. He was of the view that the construction of Kalabagh Dam has a number of adverse effects on the generation of Barotha power complex

our Govt. has no interest in building Kala Bagh dam and is taking on other initiatives for construction of some other small/large dams. we do not include the construction of dams in our millennium development programme. how do u see it??? where is Pakistan standing at this moment?? what conditions will Pakistan have to face in the near future in the absence of mega dams? if we do not build dams in Pakistan at war footings, then let's wait for its destruction within a few years. :

@ Fazal Haq

with sorry/excuse. no such project is executed which can destroy the whole country. dam is the largest project in the filed of civil engineering. so far as the flooding of NWFP is concerned, will it be safe if Bhasha Dam is constructed upstream? what is difference between the feasibilities of Bhasha and Kala Bagh Dams?

sky you are right brother.KB is a mega project with its long time benefits
but the main reason is this enemies of Pak never want this,as Pak is a agriculture state so enemies trying their best to make it barren and desert
oh i remembered a question to assian007 nd Alihashmat
how dams made land barren??
i gave a example of Aswan Dam at Nile river in Egypt, a oldest dam of world and still working KB is like that
is any harmfulness or destruction done due to Aswan dam in history????

Asslam O Allaikum fellows, Please use KPK instead of NWFP

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@ Glaringoh sorry dear, Kpk

@shooting star and for all who are in the favor of Kbd please read it carefylly and decide yourself



Kalabagh: the other view
By Hassan Abbas | 12/16/2012 1200 AM

THE consensus at the national, or shall we say political, level to build the Kalabagh dam for water and power does not exist.

Perhaps some areas of Pakistan will benefit from the dam while some others will not, but the question is whether Pakistan as a whole would earn any net benefits from its construction.

Those in favour of the dam almost religiously believe that without it we are doomed to a dry future. Why do they think so? Perhaps because a number of reports by foreign `experts` say so. Who are these `experts`? Where do they come from? Why do they care? We shall revisit these questions, but first a couple of others.

Do we produce enough electric power in Pakistan? No. Do we have enough water storage capacity? Well, it depends on 1) how we define `enough` and 2) `where` we want to store. Of all the available water in the Indus basin of Pakistan, approximately 95 per cent is directed to agriculture of which over 70 per cent goes waste; less than 30 per cent of it is the actual requirement for the crops we grow.

The fact is, besides wasting water, we also spend billions in managing wastage of water in the name of SCARP (Salinity Control and Reclamation Project). Rather than planning for more water at the rate of 70 per cent wastage we need to invest in increasing irrigation efficiency.

We can build a new dam to store water, or we can use an available storage space in the form of natural `aquifers` Current knowledge of hydrogeology tells us that water storage is carried out better in aquifers than in dams.

If only we refill the depleted aquifers under the city of Lahore, we can store more water than the Tarbela reservoir that too with the least social and environmental impact.Rachna, Thal and Bari Doabs all offer excellent aquifers which could be exploited for storage, offering a potential storage capacity hundreds of times more than that of Tarbela, Mangla and Kalabagh combined.

Although refilling an aquifer would be expensive, it would be much cheaper than building a large dam.

What about power? Do we need a dam for it?Let`s do some simple math here: the dam building might cost $10 billion with an estimated generation capacity of 5GW. This power, however, enters the grid only after completion of the dam which might take, say, 15 years.

With the prevailing technology of solar power, it costs approximately 90 cents to produce one watt. Given $10bn, we produce 10GW and production can start within the first few months of the project, progressively reaching 10GW in, say, two years.

So what is better $10bn for 10GW in two years or $10bn for 5GW after 15 years plus the huge social and environmental impact? Despite all this, why are there `experts` who insist that we build the dam a solution which we, as a poor country, neither have the financial muscle to embark on nor the technical expertise to undertake.

Consequently, this `solution`makes us dependent on foreign `help`, financially and technically. And we have to pay for this `help` with interest.

When a mega project (like a large dam) is undertaken in a poor country with the `help` of some global financiers, the latter are actually `investing` in the poor country on behalf of a few (rich)`donors`.

The donor countries also share part of the project proportionate to their share of `donation`, thus creating jobs and businesses for their own citizens involved in that project. With this, their `donated` capital comes back to re-circulate within their own economies, while the economy of the country being `helped` hardly benefits.

Till the project is complete, the host country accumulates a huge debt, plus interest, without having earned anything. As soon as the project starts delivering, the host country is obliged to meet the loan repayment schedule.

The lending agencies yet again dictate the price of economic goods delivered by the project to match the repayment instalments. The host government returns the loan with interest by making its citizens pay a higher price (than the actual production cost) over a period of 30 years or so.

By the time loans are paid back the project has already lived its usefullife and is in a state requiring major overhauls. For example, the lake behind a dam is silted and the power-generating infrastructure is in need of critical repairs and replacements.

This is usually the time when teams of `experts` on behalf of the lending agencies start appearing on the scene yet again, `advising and warning` the host government on the `next mega project` which is deemed `absolutely necessary` to fix the `critical` problems they have identified, or else face doom.

Poor countries like us end up `raising the dykes of Mangla dam` and then keep paying for the facility which they thoughtthey had already paid for. Now we know who are the `experts` where they come from, and why they `care`.

It`s my land, my river and my people why should an outsider built a facility on it at my cost, earn huge profits out of the facility by ripping the pockets of my people, and then leave a worn-out facility, along with a degraded environment? Building a large dam for water management and electricity generation is an expensive, unsustainable and outdated idea. Today`s knowledge offers far more economical and sustainable solutions.

We must get our investment priorities right using vision, foresight and the latest knowledge at hand.

• The writer holds a PhD in hydrology and water resources from Michigan State University.

abbashas@egr.msu.edu

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The recent development in the most disputed but pivotal Kala Bagh Dam demand a mature approach and consensus from all the political parties. They should think above provincialism for greater national interest. It is a reality that no big dam except Turbela has been made since the inception of Pakistan. The energy crisis caused by the deficiency of electricity and gas can aptly be overcome by building KBD.KBD is indispensable for the economy of Pakistan as, according to an estimate, it has the capacity of producing more than 20,000 Mega Watt.Power.However,the affectees can be compensated by accommodating them in the settled areas on the Format of Peoples Republic Of China which adjusted its dam-affectees in the UK.Some sacrifice will have to be rendred on the altar of greater national interest. The leaders should not exploit this issue for political point scoring because if Pakistan is self-sufficient in fulfilling its requirements, eventually it will benefit us .We should divert our endeavours from hostilities to cooperation. All the stakeholders-the govt, opposition, common masses and media should extend their full support for realizing them dream into reality.