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what sorts of electoral reforms Mr Qadri wants ?
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I have lost respect for this person.Cant he just see what is happening in Karachi?Dont he know that MQM is big part of what is happeining in Karachi?To me the agenda behind his arrival and this show is something else.Though not known but surely something is cooking behind the scene.

There can be a lot of theories as to why he entered and entered at this point in time in politics but i think we have had enough conspiracy theories and all that stuff in the last six decades.We should just put the facts and figures on the table,get things straight and decide everything objectively and prudently instead of exhausting our mental abilities on issues unseen and unknown to us.WE need a better living,education,Health,respect,mental and physical protection,equality and whosoever and from wheresoever gives these things to us should take the responsibility of serving us.

Enough of big slogans,dreams and heroism.Just get things done and thats what we want from our leaders/managers.No more,no less.
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What Dr said, nothing was wrong in it. Only issue of time confuses most of the persons. He is a quite sincere person. Ab peoples and N league walun jo taklif isleay hai k voh sb se zyada corrupt hain.
Aitraz kerne walay btaen unki konsi suggestion ghalat thi.
and mehrbani hogi ager unka comparison ker k dekh len k kon sincere hai.
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In my view, Dr. Qadri was on right track, but shaking hands with MQM has distorted his image to some extent as every child of Pakistan knows the character of MQM that how it has made hostage the largest city of Pakistan on gun point.

Further, it may be possible that MQM is trying to trap him to enter in Punjab as currently it is not possible for it to win any sympathy from Punjab.
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What Dr said, nothing was wrong in it. Only issue of time confuses most of the persons. He is a quite sincere person. Ab peoples and N league walun jo taklif isleay hai k voh sb se zyada corrupt hain.
Aitraz kerne walay btaen unki konsi suggestion ghalat thi.
and mehrbani hogi ager unka comparison ker k dekh len k kon sincere hai.

My dear sis,
whatever he said, everyone knows that are the problems of Pakistan and he has just said that he will do that or this, every single person who has little wisdom will make more or less the same speech, the things he talked about have become cliche, we see such empty rhetoric every now and then by someone, sometime Imran Khan is bringing the revolution and this time it is Mr Tahir ul Qadri.....give us a break.....

The other day i was reading a statement that "if i am given the responsibility of caretaker setup, i will set an example", he is dreaming...i think he better get out of that euphoria and this country, and go where he came from...
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In my view, Dr. Qadri was on right track, but shaking hands with MQM has distorted his image to some extent as every child of Pakistan knows the character of MQM that how it has made hostage the largest city of Pakistan on gun point.

Further, it may be possible that MQM is trying to trap him to enter in Punjab as currently it is not possible for it to win any sympathy from Punjab.
Yes sir,you just summed up the gain of MQM in all this.And that is why i am hell angry on Tahir ul Qadri.He has a big following in Punjab and i know that those followers would blindly follow him and most of them would/can turn eyes blind towards the heinous crimes of MQM.God forbid the last thing we want is any soft corner in Punjab for MQM.

P.S:I respect Tahir ul Qadri from the core of my heart as a scholar and in fact believes in him in religious matters a lot and whatever i am saying about him is just for discussion and my own analysis of situation.It is not intended to hurt anyone.
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Finally, MQM has exposed "the great PLAN" by owing a shaky allegiance to Mr, Qadri.

It seems Plot has been brewed to overthrow current system i.e. Another COUP.
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Actually, the "Great Plan" is to stop the PML(N) coming into power !

PPP, PML(Q), MQM, ANP and their main supporter all wants to stop the eminent victory of PML(N) in the coming elections and they have found a good Puppet to achieve their target.
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Actually, the "Great Plan" is to stop the PML(N) coming into power !

PPP, PML(Q), MQM, ANP and their main supporter all wants to stop the eminent victory of PML(N) in the coming elections and they have found a good Puppet to achieve their target.
@OP Agenda or change? Or rather a reversion to the good old days of the mullah-military alliance.

@Sociologist PU PPP and ANP have their apprehensions about Qadri and his followers. For starters, this smells like the mullah-military alliance all over again that has poisoned this country's politics. Secondly, he is calling for a change to the system without being specific about what the change should be like.. and in most cases, such calls are only meant to pander to the more conservative elements in society who want a Khilafat and what not. Also, his alliance with the MQM makes him a politician like Imran Khan and not a reformer that Pakistan needs.

PML-N's biggest threat is PTI, not PPP. PTI has positioned itself a a center-right party whereas PPP is still considered a 'liberal' party (even though there's nothing liberal left about it).

But I believe that the army doesn't want Nawaz back in office. And along with the PTI, the army will use this new Tahir-ul-Qadri tsunami to sweep Punjab.
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Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri said that Article 62 of the Constitution demands of a member of parliament to be sagacious, honest, and trustworthy and a man of good character. He said that exceptions apart, majority of the legislators failed to come up to standards contained in Articles 62 a 63 of the constitution. He said that the Supreme Court of Pakistan disqualified 91 legislators due to fake degrees. When parliament removed this condition, the same set of people got re-elected to parliament. It should be a matter of shame for both the fake degree holders as well as those institutions that awarded them degrees. If elections were held without revolutionary changes in the system, these winning horses would come back to parliament again and this joke would continue to be made with the nation till the Day of Judgment.

http://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthrea...Tahir-ul-Qadri


Muttahida Quami Movement (MQM), the PPP-led government’s coalition partner at Centre and in Sindh, has announced joining the January 14th long march of Tehreek-e-Minhajul Quran from Lahore to Islamabad.Addressing a press conference after the meeting of MQM Coordination Committee at its headquarters Nine Zero on Sunday night, party leader Dr Farooq Sattar said that the manifesto of Dr Tahirul Qadri, chief of Tehreek-e-Minhajul Quran, is same as of the MQM for which their leader Altaf Hussain had been struggling since last 33 years.

http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-ne...g-march-invite

Pakistan Muslim League-Quaid (PML-Q) has assured its complete support to Pakistan Awami Tehrik (PAT) Leader Tahirul Qadri for his long march towards Islamabad from January 14, 2013.

The views were expressed by PML-Q leader Chaudhry Shujaat Hussain after meeting Tahirul Qadri at his residence on Monday. Shujaat was also accompanied by Chaudhry Pervez Elahi, Mushahid Hussain Syed and other leaders of the party.

Shujaat said that he had old relationships with Qadri and he would continue his support for the PAT leader.

“Tahirul Qadri has raised voice against the evil forces in the country,” he said adding that PML-Q would work alongside PAT in fight against the evil forces.

Earlier, Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) has also announced to participate in the long march of Tahirul Qadri.

http://www.thenewstribe.com/2012/12/...is-long-march/


Koi Dr sb se pouchy k 62 & 63 pe implementation krwany keliye jo march hunay jaa raha hai wo agar PML(Q) & MQM k sath aur saharay hee krna tha tou phr krany ka faida kya?
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