WE need ONLY REAL REPRESENTATIVES of ISLAM who can IMPLEMENT THE TRUE EXTREME ISLAM "THE BEST SYSTEM ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH" NOT MODERATION "taking out adding in according to own wills and benefits".

@ say-n--2-materialism

Mulla has truly changed your mind and given you narrow thinking style. Iqbal said:

Khud badaltay nahin Quran ko badal detay hein
aah kis darjay Faqihan-e-Haram huey be Taufiq

Inn Ghulamo ka yeh maslak hay k naqis hay kitab
K sikhati nahin momin ko ghulami k tareeq


@ Tahir Khan



I am 100 % agree with you my dear. No uniform, no mulla-ism..... Progressive-ism of Z. A. Bhutto is only solution of the current problem.

No doubt, Musharraf has somewhere showed followness of that wisdom which was possessed by Bhutto.

But He has chosen the wrong path to come in Power corroidor.

@ Mazher!!
Narrow thinking......
Plz read this..... may your WIDE thinking get this small point......
http://the.m.awais.googlepages.com/m...lismdenied.pdf

Plz READ not Listen what media says to your WIDEl BRAIN. I ask you have you read the tafseer of QUran Majeed. I bet not coz u didn't get anything out a it.
YOu advocated of Freedom of thought. You know who it is. Its Rushdie and u are following him without knowing.
Have u ever seen the DARK sides of Political philosophies, Science. I bet not. Please read a bit about HISTORY, PHILOSOPHY and PoLITICS in the way they should be read....... And ofcourse RELIGION.......
plz also read this.........my last post
http://www.cssforum.com.pk/general/d...-its-writ.html

May you need some ENLIGHTMENT.............

And yes Don't quote Iqbal out a concept.........
Plz understand him before quoting him superficially. Plz read the reconstruction of religious thought is Islam if u really want to know something about Iqbal.....

For u it is enough Iqbal hated democracy and

In Taza Khudaoon main Bara Subse Watan Hai
Jo Pairahan iska Hai Woh Mazhab Ka Kafan Hai

And just ponder why we are here..........................................
Who will be Mahdi (PBUH)...........
http://www.theistsunited.com/mahdi.html

Also see the broad-minded ideas of ENLIGHTENED MODERATION and where they are heading you........

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism

And please try to understand the Logic behind what I am saying...... Plz see NATURALISM and HUMANISM, "CHRSITIAN ATHEISTS" AND "JEW ATHEISTS",
SECULARISM, MATERIALISM, MORALS, etc. etc in the above link..........

@ Mazher : please again go through my previous posting, it was posted a week earlier after shooting of ranger and firing of government buildings and i wrote 'current dealing' that means the dealing at that period of time.

The then policy of the government was very much welcomed as many in government circles were very much enthusiastic for operation and be noted that if there would have been operation a week earlier thn the death toll would certainly be in hundreds.... that is very much appreciative. nonetheless, what followed is really condemnable.

As regards your notion of 'progressive-ism' of bhutto, brother you must recall the famous saying 'power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely' and absolute power corrupted bhutto as well and his policies in later period of his rule were certainly against many sections of society. this was the reason that he was easily dethroned, put behind bars and later executed......

nawaz sharif also got a form of absolute power and he started ploying with the things and was caught to use his hegemony against musharraf. if we see circumstances then coup de-tat of musharraf was a happy omen and was lauded in many circles. majority of the people, who are against policies of musharraf, made joys on his coming into power.

you must recall the events leading to coming into power of musharraf. it was army, which retaliated. first general karamat was sent home thn musharraf was aimed when a lower tier lt. general was tried to be made chief. this was not acceptable to other generals, who moved troops for safety of musharraf. any how, what happened must not be followed again. It is a democratic country and democracy should flourish, however, it is not only the supremacy of army to come into power on other side of picture it is weakness of our political institutions and politicians which provide back doors for coming of generals into power.

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'Thee woh ik shakhs kay tasawar saay - abb woh ranayee khayal kahaan'

we dont need personalities rather we need strong institutions thats it!

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Zara num ho to yeh mati bari zarkhez hai,

i agree with the very recently abovementioned remarks of the fellow contestents that it is very important to understand the about wider picture what it is. i am not saying that i just have read it in the book or something it is because i had travelled about more than half of the world.

but i still love you because you are our very own.

yeah brother it remained a dismay for our country that we have had strong individuals and personalities but efficacy of our institutions declined through the years and the process is still on-going.

@ FromMelbourne "but i still love you because you are our very own." mashALLAH, brother it is laudable.!

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'Thee woh ik shakhs kay tasawar saay - abb woh ranayee khayal kahaan'

If we recall pakistan`s annals, We barely had any politician who worked for beloved country. We never had any responsible leader for pakistan. After the death of Quaid-e-azam, Pakistan came btw few hands. Our economy system changed into Captalism which aggrandise the property of Landlords.

Pakistan faced the threat of Army and Marshall laws for many decades. Zulfikar Ali Bhutto was the only politician who advocates the democratic government but he curbed to act upon his intentions. Againt we trapped in tyrant governments.

After a long while, We had Musharraf as our president. Although he works by help of his power but his advent leads accretion in our economy as well as ambience. If we count his Good and Bad done, We will find him better future of pakistan. Introduction of new cities, new policies, expand of business, relation with foriegn countries, reputation all around the world are commendable jobs. I guess, Musharraf deserves to govern Pakistan

Chao,

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salam
we need Mussaraf or not but he needs Pakistan to rule.we can only have a leader in a real sense if we people are strong and believe ourselves but unfortunately that is not the case.ruler and the ruled are same.we have drifted away from our religion the result is chaos that prevails in our country.

salam to cute cute members,
i have given my vote........actually we cant say that a person is wrong as a whole or good in all respective.... if we see mushraf policies in econmic terms it is said good enough although some people also said that all this economic progress is based on fake figures... then i want to ask them why they people even did so when they were in power?
however!!!!!!!!!!!
anyone tell how miltary can be stoped to Interfere in public or political affairs?