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i think this is merly an exaggeration and partiality that you have shown on your behalf dear!
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i think this is merly an exaggeration and partiality that you have shown on your behalf dear!
brother you are far from the real scene. before incident took place shahzeb used dirty and abusive languages against sindhis. if shahrukh and siraj were teasing shahzeb then shahzeb or even any body else has no right to target and use abusive language against people who made more than 5 crore population of our country and are playing key role in politics, bureaucracy, and armed forces of pakistan.
and point to be noted is that what circumstances led alleged shahrukh to fire on him. we sindhis always respect for women and girls. It is almost impossible to understain that shahrukh was teasing his sister. a biased facebook user has up-loaded the fake pic of shahrukh in which shahrukh has two heavily guns in his hands. now how can a 17 years old un-trained boy can take heavy guns on his hands. where as it is also difficult for a trained man.
and I know sikandar jatoi who is a real philinthropist. and plays key role in the development for daily life of common people of pakistan.
and my other protest is that why media doesnt put light on the geniune issues of karachi. what about daily killings in karachi by racist group. can media put light on this issue. can media dare to speak against terror of racist terrorist group of karachi.
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its not matter of being sindhi or urdu speaking, its about the justice .but when see current situation of pakistan media is not playing its role as it should ... it simply creates the question is the minds of sindhi people why they are deprived of such support and reaction . however being sindhi i must admit this the reality as mubashir said....... i agree with him
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brother you are far from the real scene. before incident took place shahzeb used dirty and abusive languages against sindhis. if shahrukh and siraj were teasing shahzeb then shahzeb or even any body else has no right to target and use abusive language against people who made more than 5 crore population of our country and are playing key role in politics, bureaucracy, and armed forces of pakistan.
and point to be noted is that what circumstances led alleged shahrukh to fire on him.
Do you mean that if shahrukh and siraj were teasing shahzeb tu shahzeb araam sy sunta aur bilkul react na krta?

If Shahzeb has no right to use abusive language against shahrukh and siraj which (according to you) was against 5 crore population of Pakistan and which hurt the ego of both so-called Sindhi patriots, so they decided to kill the traitor. Then both Shahrukh and Siraj also had no right to tease Shahzeb.

If someone uses abusive language then is it a good thing to shot that person?
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You are exaggerating, dude.

Answer a simple question with yes or no: Are Jatoi & Tallpur innocent?
no not at all...
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the shahzeb case has now become totally politicized. biased media against sindhis has fully shown only the first side of pic. it must be a big story behind the scene. sikandar jatoi father of shahrukh jatoi is not a fuedal lord. he is a business man. and it is normal practice of urdu speakers specially of karachi resident urdu speakers they treat every sindhi including financily extremly weak sindhis as fuedals and waderas. where as sikandar jatoi and shahrukh jatoi are being persecuted just because they are sindhis, on the other hand deceased shahzeb is no- sindhi. if shah zeb would would have been sindhi and shah rukh would have been a non sindhi, there would have hardly been news of this incident even on first day of incident. sikandar jatoi's business specially his cement factory has been sealed by armed police, thousands of poor workers have become un-employeed, who will provide labour to them. hundreds of children are being died of measls in sindh due to mis management of health department but cj is silent.
guys you might remember more than 300 poor workers were died in a factory in karachi, why didn't media discuss all about this incident for a long time. why did't cj took suo moto on that issue
drone attacks, daily more than 10 killings in karachi, our relations with neighbours/our foreing policy, kashmir issue, un-employement issue etc ended now. and the topic left for media to discuss is shahzeb case and persection of shahrukh and sikandar jatoi.
We should not guess about the case, it is under consideration of the Supreme Court. Those who are responsibles of Shahzebs' murder will be and should be chastised.
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an old habit of media i.e high lighting things for a week and then forgetting it for a century
media show what they really wanted to show.. like high lighting unimportant things like sania shoiab wedding for a whole week nd etc

this shazeb case has taken a political turn but whatever the story behind is, shahrukh is a murderer and he should be punished .

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Do you mean that if shahrukh and siraj were teasing shahzeb tu shahzeb araam sy sunta aur bilkul react na krta?

If Shahzeb has no right to use abusive language against shahrukh and siraj which (according to you) was against 5 crore population of Pakistan and which hurt the ego of both so-called Sindhi patriots, so they decided to kill the traitor. Then both Shahrukh and Siraj also had no right to tease Shahzeb.

If someone uses abusive language then is it a good thing to shot that person?
Sir, the thing I want to highlight is that, it is up to the Honorable Supreme Court and the Law Enforcing Agencies to investigate and let the justice be served, and they are doing their job. It is neither mine nor Ali Mubashir's duty, this thread is doing nothing but spreading racism and nationalism, the varying replies are a proof.
I respect Sindhi Brothers and Sisters, and yes Sindhis are as much respectable community as any other Pakistani community. For sure they respect women, in fact all Pakistanis respect women it is our religious as well as national character. But one should not forget the facts even in the houses of prophets were rose infidel sons, one can not say that all the members of a community are either saints or sinners, vice dwells within virtues and also the other way round. In the last I will again request, let the case be solved by those who are supposed to solve it, at least we should not spread racism and nationalism on the issues of such individual nature, on the stake is the national harmony.
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A murder has taken place,we should find the culprit,treat him according to the law and go home.No more no less.

Some concerns of the initiator of the thread may be valid in a different way.But the solution of those does not lie in seeing things from sindhi-urdu perspective.
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brother you are far from the real scene. before incident took place shahzeb used dirty and abusive languages against sindhis. if shahrukh and siraj were teasing shahzeb then shahzeb or even any body else has no right to target and use abusive language against people who made more than 5 crore population of our country and are playing key role in politics, bureaucracy, and armed forces of pakistan.
and point to be noted is that what circumstances led alleged shahrukh to fire on him. we sindhis always respect for women and girls. It is almost impossible to understain that shahrukh was teasing his sister. a biased facebook user has up-loaded the fake pic of shahrukh in which shahrukh has two heavily guns in his hands. now how can a 17 years old un-trained boy can take heavy guns on his hands. where as it is also difficult for a trained man.
and I know sikandar jatoi who is a real philinthropist. and plays key role in the development for daily life of common people of pakistan.
and my other protest is that why media doesnt put light on the geniune issues of karachi. what about daily killings in karachi by racist group. can media put light on this issue. can media dare to speak against terror of racist terrorist group of karachi.
Bro, your statements are expression of strong sense of partiality. Some of Your statements are self-contradictory.
1.You wrote," we Sindhis always respect for women and girls"
What is the social position of women in sindh? Isn't the barbarian tradition of honor killing, Karo kari, and marriage with Quran practiced in Sindh? The social position of Sindhi women is no better than that of her counterpart in anywhere in Pakistan. She is also a victim of sexual harassment, be it by Sindhis or Non-Sindhis. Her social position must be improved. No sentimental words can gloss over this fact.

2. "It is almost impossible to understain that Shahrukh was teasing his sister"
Bro, you're stating your assumption and without proving it by any statistics and fact considering it true!!??
"Shahrukh Jatoi murdered Shah Zeb" is just a tip of the iceberg…only thorough investigation can reveal hidden facts behind this case. sympathizing a murderer on the basis of racism is biasness itself.
And Bro Pakistani media is very vibrant.everyday there are debates on killings in Karachi, shia killings, our economic crisis, foreign policy and many other issues.The issues you think are not being discusses on media, in fact, are discussed everyday.
Shahrukh case is discussed because it's a recent issue not the older one. Your allegation would hold any credit if Sharukh and his family were persecuted without committing any crime.What's wrong in discussing the escape of a murderer and what's wrong in persecuting a murderer and his family? Is this violation of the constitution of Pakistan?
What we Pakistanis want CJ to do? To solve every issue of this country with the swish of magical wand or we're going to give CJ special powers? Doesn't it sound ridiculous? Judiciary has to work within its own sphere. The current "hyperactive' role of judiciary is justified because there is the need of filling up of the vacuum created by non-functioning of other state institutions. If we have a strong desire to bring a perceptible change on the socio-political horizon of Pakistan we'll have to raise our voice for the need of proper functioning of all institutes within their own spheres.
And Bro, it's my request...plz stop promoting racism.
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