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right decision at anytime is right. And how could it derail democratic process?
Decision against corruption will strengthen the democratic process.
And distorting the image of country... How could it distort the image of country.
A corrupt head of goverment and a corrupt head of state distorts the soft image of a country more than arresting these persons. And if we can not make decisions against corrupt just to save the soft image of country then we deserve these corrupt leaders.
And what about fragile economy?
Our economy has already been ruined by the corruption of these persons. Loadshedding repell our economy to deteriorating condition.
I feel this is a great decision by supreme court.
Dear right decision at any time is right but its success depends upon at right time,otherwise it brings failure.
Give so many tragedies at a time,that is Governor raj,long march,fragile economy,this right decision is a formidable blow to the democratic process,and even could give a way to millitary take over.
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WHY DEMOCRACIES LIKE OURs FAIL??? IN THE LIGHT OF UNO REPORT, SEE WHAT AGA KHAN SAYS TO GERMAN NEWS MAGAZINE INTERVIEW 2006:

Reasons:
Countries where:
* Lack of education in public and politicians about democracy, about rights and duties of awam
* Incompetent and Corrupt governments
* Inability to deliver to the public
* Government doesn't improve the Living condition of their masses/awam
* Population that is predominantly illiterate

Aga Khan why democracies fail:
BBC Monitoring Europe - Political
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October 9, 2006 Monday

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SPIEGEL: Not many are functioning democracies.
Aga Khan: People speak about failed states. I do not think that states can fail, but democracies certainly can.
The failure of democracies is not specific to the Islamic world. About two years ago the UN commissioned a study of Latin America and came to the conclusion that some 55 per cent of the populations there would prefer to live under a paternalistic dictatorship rather than an incompetent, corrupt democracy that does not improve their living conditions. What do you gain if you hold a referendum in a population that is predominantly illiterate? What should the vote on a constitution mean if hardly any of those entitled to vote know the difference between a presidential government and a constitutional monarchy? Votes, laws: all that is important, but far from sufficient for a democratic development. Uquote"
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Why Democracies Fail By Phil B:

* Most people are stupid, don't care, or think they can not make a difference.

* Most politicians have power and money. Power corrupts. Money corrupts too. Most politicians want even more money and power. Therefore, most politicians are corrupt or corruptible.
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ONE REASON WHY DEMOCRACIES FAIL??: by Steven D
Thu Dec 17th, 2009 at 08:282 AM EST

* Democracies fail when their political leaders vote not in the public interest but in the interest of their wealthy "friends"And sometimes it doesn't take many politicians to bring about a massive failure to promote the general welfare.

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I dont know who is playing this puppetry but one thing is for sure this Country is falling on hard times now with internal & external pressure at the same time. What an untimely decision by SC! It has diminished respect for CJ in my eyes. He should have distanced himself from this conspiracy. What would happen had he delayed his order for few days? Mr. Qadri has successfully made SC controversial today.

Who is this dual nationalist to proclaim PM & Cabinet as "EX" one day before the announcement of official order?

Who is he to declare " Aadha kaam hugaya-- Aadha baqi hai"?.

Who is he to trumpet his opposition to culpable punishment?

Such a bizarre situation..




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Originally Posted by Taimoor Gondal View Post
right decision at anytime is right. And how could it derail democratic process?
Decision against corruption will strengthen the democratic process.
And distorting the image of country... How could it distort the image of country.
A corrupt head of goverment and a corrupt head of state distorts the soft image of a country more than arresting these persons. And if we can not make decisions against corrupt just to save the soft image of country then we deserve these corrupt leaders.
And what about fragile economy?
Our economy has already been ruined by the corruption of these persons. Loadshedding repell our economy to deteriorating condition.
I feel this is a great decision by supreme court.
Just one Question: Who is to benefit from this Order at this crucial time when this Govt is already on its way to home due to upcoming Election?
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I dont know who is playing this puppetry but one thing is for sure this Country is falling on hard times now with internal & external pressure at the same time. What an untimely decision by SC! It has diminished respect for CJ in my eyes. He should have distanced himself from this conspiracy. What would happen had he delayed his order for few days? Mr. Qadri has successfully made SC controversial today.

Who is this dual nationalist to proclaim PM & Cabinet as "EX" one day before the announcement of official order?

Who is he to declare " Aadha kaam hugaya-- Aadha baqi hai"?.

Who is he to trumpet his opposition to culpable punishment?

Such a bizarre situation..





Just one Question: Who is to benefit from this Order at this crucial time when this Govt is already on its way to home due to upcoming Election?

There is no link between Dr Sb,s long march and SC's order. The case was pending for long when Pm was a cabinet Minister. Secondly NAB produced investigation report before the CJ showing the involvement of those people to which SC replied that why then accused were not being arrested. That is very simple. CJ said why every time you people rush to SC even when NAB ordinance gives direction that when Agency after sufficient investigation finds someone guilty it shall arrest the accused. SC has not done anything. It was the NAB which found ex Minster guilty and went to SC for endorsement of Arrest.
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a good decision nothing related to long march but qadri's luck wow
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There is no link between Dr Sb,s long march and SC's order. The case was pending for long when Pm was a cabinet Minister. Secondly NAB produced investigation report before the CJ showing the involvement of those people to which SC replied that why then accused were not being arrested. That is very simple. CJ said why every time you people rush to SC even when NAB ordinance gives direction that when Agency after sufficient investigation finds someone guilty it shall arrest the accused. SC has not done anything. It was the NAB which found ex Minster guilty and went to SC for endorsement of Arrest.
There are millions of cases in pendency, dude, this wasn't an exceptional one, was this? NAB hasn't given any final word for its investigation regarding this particular case, had it given, it would have been a 'HYPE' in Media like Contempt case of Mr Gilani.

Rest Aadha Kaam of Mr Qadri: Mr. President is going to be charged in Contempt case (Holding President Office & Party Chairmanship) in next few days by LHC since he doesn't enjoy immunity in civil cases.

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I dont know who is playing this puppetry but one thing is for sure this Country is falling on hard times now with internal & external pressure at the same time. What an untimely decision by SC! It has diminished respect for CJ in my eyes. He should have distanced himself from this conspiracy. What would happen had he delayed his order for few days? Mr. Qadri has successfully made SC controversial today.

Who is this dual nationalist to proclaim PM & Cabinet as "EX" one day before the announcement of official order?

Who is he to declare " Aadha kaam hugaya-- Aadha baqi hai"?.

Who is he to trumpet his opposition to culpable punishment?

Such a bizarre situation..





Just one Question: Who is to benefit from this Order at this crucial time when this Govt is already on its way to home due to upcoming Election?
All of this is part of International Plan against Pakistan:
1. Attack on hazara community (very painful)
2. Removal of Bolachistan Govt.
3. Again and again attack on LOC by Indian Army from atleast past 15 days.
4. Attack on polio workers.
5. Now Dr. Tahir.
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international plan ?? you mean the US ?
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international plan ?? you mean the US ?
Obviously,
Latest news is statesman from State Department spokesperson, Victoria Nuland say America is closely monitoring the situation in Pakistan and human rights of the people of march should be safeguarded.
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There are millions of cases in pendency, dude, this wasn't an exceptional one, was this? NAB hasn't given any final word for its investigation regarding this particular case, had it given, it would have been a 'HYPE' in Media like Contempt case of Mr Gilani.

Rest Aadha Kaam of Mr Qadri: Mr. President is going to be charged in Contempt case (Holding President Office & Party Chairmanship) in next few days by LHC since he doesn't enjoy immunity in civil cases.

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You didn't not get the point. there may be tens of thousand cases pending disposal, they are being heard and would be disposed accordingly. This matter was relating to an application which was made by some one, any one can make application to any court and it will be heard and disposed of as soon as possible. This is not a judgement..

It is just an order made on the investigation report of NAB, which failed to take action at its own even though it was empowered to do so by virtue of relevant sections of NAB ordinance.

Do you know when an application is made to court under section 22 A B of CRPCfor registration of FIR which the police is bound to register, The court hears the matter on urgent basis disposing of the application on priority basis. Now accused can not accuse court that It has thousands of cases to dispose of and why it has heard this application.

Secondly every statute has its own procedure and you know that in CRPC if Police after investigation is satisfied that a peson is involved in cognizable offense, it can arrest him without arrest warrant. And if Police goes to Magisterial court and says that this is the investigation and "what we should do", the court will definitely say that why (you) Police come here when Law empowers you do so at your own.

whoever the person may be when he is found involved he has tobe arrested accordingly, according to the rules and procedure and that is what we mean by rule of law. Even if a diplomat commits crime he will be arrested untill he claims immunity and proves it. Things can not be left to perceptions. Law is law!
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