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CII point of view on DNA test for Identification of Culprit
The Council of Islamic Ideology (CII), however, has declared that DNA tests are not admissible as the main evidence in rape cases.
In a meeting of the council on Wednesday, religious scholars observed that while the tool could aid investigation into rape complaints, it could not be taken as evidence. It could, at best, serve as supplementary evidence but could not supersede the Islamic laws laid out for determining rape complaints. “It cannot be treated as main evidence but it certainly is a great help in investigations,” said Allama Tahir Mehmood Ashrafi, a member of CII present at the meeting chaired by Senator Maulana Muhammad Khan Sherani. The Quranic provisions calling for four witnesses would still be required as evidence in such cases, the scholars maintained. The observation was made in response to queries sent to the council by different courts regarding the status of DNA tests as evidence in rape case. The standard police practice has been to register rape cases only after obtaining DNA test results and presenting the report before the court as the main evidence. Now the Question is does a women needs four witnesses although DNA test proves who is criminal? and what if she is unable to provide four witnesses? Please through some light on four witnesses importance and DNA test? |
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Providing four witnesses is a joke and a mockery of the law and even humanity. DNA test is perfectly valid. If we start following the directions of these clerics in the matters of science, who have absolutely no understanding of science, we better prepare to go live in caves and jungles. CII should be disbanded for good.
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who gonna watch over that some rape is going on and rapist will obviously not commit the rape in front of people.what about that poor woman who became the victim of rape. how she could prove.it is difficult near to impossible to get four witnesses for rape case.on the other hand we need only two witnesses in murder case.what if some one provide a video of murder to the court instead of two witnesses?than what these Allamas will say " is this against Islam".DNA teat is also a type of witness against a crime. and we all know what DNA test is.Islam is a very broad religion and it provides the guidance for every time and century. the need is only to study it and understand it properly. Our prophet( PBUH) fought the war with sword ,than why we are using missiles and tanks?????? the only need is to think rationally.
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DNA test should be one of the primary tests not the ultimate because there still needs a demarcation between a rape and an adultery. For this, a thorough medical checkup is practiced world wide.
... and rejecting tested specialized tests just because we don't have a whole audience at the crime scene is trash. An illiterate mullah is definitely the worst creature of all. They surely "broke the backbone of religion"... Alas!
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I am to die (Friday, November 01, 2013) |
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Agreed with you Sasha.that will be quite difficult or even impossible for a victimized women to provide four true honest witnesses in the court. So Scientific tests i.e. DNA test and Medical examinations should be used to give punishment under Hadud Law.
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Arrgggg
I know nothing ridiculous like this can happen on a serious note but its the religion which gets mocked at which sends bile down my throat.
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anyone who reads and verifies DNA report can become witness, like 4 lab technicians, or DNA test maybe conducted under supervision of 4 mullahs and they become witness , science bhi khush mullah bhi khush
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what they said is not to let the people feel that they exist.....It is clearly a part of Shariah law what they have said.....
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Miss i would suggest you to keep yourself away from such issues that need religious knowledge, the Ulama are definitely the people who have the knowledge of the religion and not every person is capable to discuss it......It has become a norm for every Tom, Dick and harry to broach the discussion...... The people are making mockery of Islamic laws and considering themselves that they are doing a very good job and are so called Modern Minds.....Not every topic is to be discussed..... P.S: I would request the mods to scrub such a thread in which people start discussing everything though they don't know anything about it, particularly when its about the religious provisions....
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I am to die (Friday, November 01, 2013) |
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@Bilal Hussain:
You might want to suggest this to religious scholars (actually fanatics): Keep yourself away from giving any opinion on matters relating to science, to politics, to economics, to philosophy etc. because you don't have thorough and sufficient knowledge on any of these subjects. How about that? |
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