Orya Maqbool Jan has finally refused to become the part of Taliban Committee...

PESHAWAR: The Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan’s “political shura” and negotiations committee met at an undisclosed location in North Waziristan Agency for the second consecutive day on Sunday and produced as many as fifteen demands to be put forward to the government’s negotiation committee.
Media reports said the Taliban shura had been meeting since Saturday under its deputy ameer, Sheikh Khalid Haqqani. Professor Ibrahim Khan and Maulana Yousuf Shah who are in Waziristan for a meeting with the Taliban shura are likely to convey these points to the committee formed by the government for mediation. The points are as follows: Stop drone attacks; introduce sharia law in courts; introduce Islamic system of education in both public and private educational institutions; free Pakistani and foreign Taliban held in jails; restoration and remuneration for damage to property during drone attacks; hand over control of tribal areas to local forces; withdrawal of army from tribal areas and close down check posts; all criminal allegations against the Taliban be dropped; prisoners from both sides be released; equal rights for all, poor and rich; families of drone attack victims be offered jobs; end interest-based system; stop supporting the US on the war on terror; replace the democratic system of governance with the Islamic system; end all relations with the US.
During the second round of talks, the political shura of the TTP formally presented these conditions to its representatives. The conditions include holding negotiations within limits of sharia, withdrawal of forces from conflict areas and release of captured Taliban accomplices from Pakistani prisons. The session also discussed the option of ceasefire along with other key issues. The Taliban-nominated committee is likely to put forward TTP’s demands after reaching Islamabad.
Earlier on Saturday, Taliban central shura met at an undisclosed location in North Waziristan under Taliban deputy ameer Sheikh Khalid Haqqani. Professor Ibrahim, Maulana Yousaf and Maulana Haseeb informed the TTP about the demands of the government committee, following which the TTP put forward its own set of demands. According to sources, negotiations between the committee members and Taliban could last two to three phases.
The members of the Taliban negotiations committee Professor Ibrahim and Maulana Samiul Haq’s special representative Maulana Haseeb had reached Miranshah on a helicopter provided by the government. They were there briefed by the political agent after which the three leaders proceeded ahead. Taliban’s political shura assured complete security to the committee members.
The session will continue for next two days and Maulana Samiul Haq is also expected to join it. Sources said that the Taliban had asked Maulana Samiul Haq to join the meeting in North Waziristan. The maulana could leave for North Waziristan today (Monday) to inform the Taliban leadership about the government’s demands. He has expressed his hope for success of the dialogue process and also appealed to all countrymen to pray for the success of the peace process.
The Taliban commanders and the members of their committee kept changing the venue of their meeting amid continued flights of unmanned US drones in the tribal area, a private TV channel said on Sunday. The Taliban shura and the committee members had to change the venue many times due to the drone flights.
The government’s peace efforts suffered a major setback on Friday when Maulana Abdul Aziz, a member of the Taliban mediation committee, sought assurance that sharia would be implemented in the country, as a condition for continuing to be part of the negotiations. Addressing a press conference in Islamabad on Friday the cleric stated, “Until an assurance on enforcement of Islamic law, I will neither meet Taliban nor join the dialogue process.” The Lal Masjid khateeb said that the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) team of negotiators was constituted with the aim to hold negotiations, but the government’s demand that the negotiations be held within the limits of 1973 Constitution will delay the process.

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Originally Posted by Maha Khan So much for the kick start of the peace talks! Do you thing, any negotiations between government and the Taliban would bring desire results.? I know "Dialogues are the best way to solve any issue", but how can Taliban change their mindset after "peace talks"??...personally, I am in favor of operation against the Talibans. What Do you thing? Regards

Operation has been finally launched.

General Raheel , We hope that you may arrange real " Muzakrat' between God and Taaliban leadership/ throat- cutters, as early as possible. Good luck!

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Its really a good news. Munawar Hassan is still in favor of dialogues with these beasts.

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What is the working of Butcher?? His work is to cut either he is good or Bad..... Like wise Taliban..........

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I am totally in favor of operation against TTP...There is no burden on the economy of pakistan....The biggest burden being corruption. If our so f......k...ing leaders take some good steps then we will have a victory over them and infact over all problems....the people in parliament and senate just make policies for their own interest they do not have to bother whether common people are living or dying....
Just tell me which big and popular leader which has been targeted by Taliban (except Benazir, Ghulam Bilour and some other which is also not very clear who target them)....We want these terrorists finished as soon as possible.
Just think and answer the questions regarding Taliban...from where they get help...mony....weapons....etc.....when they were growing in number and multiplying in strength what the government was doing????????
The so called leaders (i should not called them) will do nothing untill the feel the heat at their own homes.............

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Originally Posted by Maha Khan Its really a good news. Munawar Hassan is still in favor of dialogues with these beasts.

Munawar hassan is worthless. I wish F-16 Jets get success in cutting Talibans' supply line as soon as possible.

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Though it seems reasonable that the government should do operation against Taliban but before we go for operation, we need to do "Cost-Benefit Analysis" of this operation. Benefits 'll be uncertain in this strategy but the cost is going to be very high, not in monetary terms only bt also in terms of lost lives of our ppl. Because ppl living in FATA, KPK would be worst affected in this scenario. First provide them maximum security and safety nd then plan anything else. We must also consider the fact that the network of Taliban is spread all over the country. if governmnet starts operation against them , what do u think that they r not going to react in return... They would definitely react they doing more explosions/blasts in our cities.
But as it was predicted by many analysts that these dialogues are not going to successful b/c it's not only Sharia that they want to implement in thjs country it's much more than that. Now Government is going to do operation against them, no more dialogues. We can only pray nd hope for the best.

Why there is no burden on our "Economy"? Does that mean that we have a strong Economy..? What do u think that starting operation does not cost anything to the Government? There are implicit and explicit costs associated with the operation. When we talk about Operation , it is only feasible in those regimes which have strong parliament, strong bureaucracy , strong judiciary, strong media and army. All these important stakeholders have to unite and cooperate with one another, only then we can expect that the this operation is going to be successful. Otherwise probably difficult to achieve the desire target. Even if all political parties come and sit together for this purpose and forget about their differences, then it's a good signal to outside world/forces like Taliban that we as a nation are united and ready to look eye to eye.

How to defeat Taliban?



Since past ten years, insurgency is tearing Pakistan apart. Despite numerous peace talks, cease-fires, and military actions, war rages on between Taliban fighters and the state of Pakistan.

TTP has a simple strategy of repeated pin-pricks and bleedings that, though small in proportion to the total force strength, sap the will of Pakistan as a nation to fight against them. They believe that slowly, the state will kneel down and accept their demands. To counter their strategy, Pakistan as a state needs to define some basic principles which shall then be used to chalk down a detailed counter-insurgent strategy. These basic principles are to be defined taking in account the power of insurgents, the viability of fulfilling their demands, the threat to general lifestyle of people from their demands and the strength of state.

Power of insurgents:

Time and again, Taliban of Pakistan has shown that they are trained, fearless guerilla fighters and have the strength of destabilizing Pakistan any moment. They have presence in almost all cities of Pakistan; have sophisticated ammunition and many suicide bombers. From destroying Marriot hotel in Islamabad, to attacking GHQ and Mehran Naval base, they have done what a few decades back would have seemed impossible for any guerilla group to do.

The important question is whether they have put all their cards on table yet or not. Are they operating to their maximum capacity or they can create further panic if the fight is taken to their stronghold North Waziristan.

The answer to this question requires an analytic analysis of the pattern of attacks in Pakistan. More attacks happened in Pakistan when the public would expect them the least-for example during the recently held peace talks. Even when Bait Ulah Mehsud and the Hakim Ulah Mehsud were killed, and a major backlash was expected, less civilians and army jawans died as compared to last few weeks when we are ‘giving peace a chance’ and talking to ‘stakeholders’. This shows that Taliban operate to their maximum capacity during peace times. This also makes operational sense as they can regroup during these times and then launch major attacks. It can be safely concluded that they are working at their full capacity at this very moment.

Viability of fulfilling their demands:

Since Taliban don’t accept our constitution, lifestyle and even the way we follow Islam, it is obvious that following their demands is not viable.

Threat to public from these insurgents:

More than 50,000 Pakistanis have been killed by TTP. The threat to public therefore is alarming.

Strength of our state:

It is important to point out here that in such wars, the strength of state is not just measured by the strength of army. The strength of state depends on the combined effectiveness of army, police and judiciary. Although Pakistan has a brave and professional army, civilian controlled police and judiciary need improvement. The ‘Pakistan Protection Ordinance’ that was put into effect recently has strengthened the hands of these two institutions recently. The minimum punishment for terrorists involved in various crimes has been set at 10 years. The performance of police has also improved in last many years and many attacks have been foiled.

Our state now therefore is strong enough to face these insurgent groups.

In light of the background I have mentioned, it is logical to follow the Sri Lankan model of dealing with insurgents. After three decades of conflict, Sri Lanka’s government defeated the ethnic separatist insurgent group Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE), popularly known as the Tamil Tigers, in May 2009. In the Los Angeles Times, reporter Mark Magnier characterized the government’s victory as a “rare success story for governments fighting insurgencies.” In the same article, the retired head of India’s Sri Lankan peacekeeping force characterized the defeat of the LTTE as having turned conventional COIN theory on its head. Other commentators and bloggers have echoed these sentiments or used them to criticize the approach of countries like Pakistan.

Sri Lankan military and civilian leaders believe the application of these principles enabled the government’s victory:

political will,
Ignore domestic and international criticism,
no negotiations,
regulate media,
no ceasefire,
complete operational freedom to army,
accent on young commanders,
keep your neighbors in the loop,
Stop all external funding for terrorists.

Pakistan’s case is much better than Sri Lanka. Our army is much stronger and the insurgents have way less political support. Army operations against Taliban in Swat and Fata tell us that they don’t have the capacity to fight against a full scale army operation. They run away to a safer place whenever an operation is launched.

Therefore, if the same principles as Sri Lanka are followed, we can not only defeat Taliban and bring back peace but we can also unite as a nation and improve our image in the world. It’s time for politicians to show the will to fight these terrorists and for our foreign office to take our neighbor Afghanistan in the loop and force it to stop supporting terrorist groups (threaten for action by our air force in Afghanistan-just like the US uses the drones). It’s time to stop confusing the public with ‘give peace a chance’ lollypop and do what a state with half a million army and well equipped air force should do. It’s time to fight.

Slowly and gradually things will improve: we will tackle this menace, restore our pride and Pakistan will see peace again.



http://blogs.arynews.tv/defeat-taliban/

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