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Suppose during the interview the panel ask me this question.
"You are in working as CSP officer in any foreign embassy.A person who has different criminal cases in Pakistan come for visa application.That person is the close one of any CM/PM and he force you to make this process urgent without looking into legal matters and you are saying him that we have to look for legal matters.Suddenly your authorities or CM/PM call you & order you to complete that person's VISA as quickly as possible regardless of his criminal activities.What will you do?"
What will be the suitable answer to this question?
You may get answer from the Judgement of SC in Petition by Ms. Anita Turab (for protection of Civil Servants). Which says:-


Illegal orders: Civil servants owe their first and foremost allegiance to the law and the Constitution. They are not bound to obey orders from superiors which are illegal or are not in accordance with accepted practices and rule Const. based norms; instead, in such situations, they must record their opinion and, if necessary, dissent.
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You may get answer from the Judgement of SC in Petition by Ms. Anita Turab (for protection of Civil Servants). Which says:-


Illegal orders: Civil servants owe their first and foremost allegiance to the law and the Constitution. They are not bound to obey orders from superiors which are illegal or are not in accordance with accepted practices and rule Const. based norms; instead, in such situations, they must record their opinion and, if necessary, dissent.
Well that what I was looking for.I was in confusion that whether in this kind of an awkward situation you go for obeying your authorities order or you gonna obey rules.But After all,It is a bad situation if asked in an interview,as it totally depends on the panelists that they agree to Supreme Court judgment or they agree with our mostly followed rule of "Yes to authorities"!
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Well no one noted whether you are issuing the visa or just making the process urgent . I would simply comply and forward the application immediately to concerned authority who issues visa, it would be their job to look into legal matters
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PM/CM won't call you. They would call their subordinates and then through the proper chain of command your immediate boss will tell you to do that. Would you say no to your boss?

It is easier to say no to the Prime Minister than to your immediate boss. That's how such things work.

As this is an interview question, the best answer would be to say No which will show your honesty. In real life situation the best way would be to stall
My question was not about the procedure through which higher authorities will be going to force.It was about the choice between authorities and rules.What if they properly follow the procedure to force me?
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Well no one noted whether you are issuing the visa or just making the process urgent . I would simply comply and forward the application immediately to concerned authority who issues visa, it would be their job to look into legal matters
Well it was just an example.I was talking about the choice between higher authorities and rules??It may be directed to any such kind of situation.
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Well it was just an example.I was talking about the choice between higher authorities and rules??It may be directed to any such kind of situation.
I think your own level of authority must also be considered in examples . If you are visa issuing authority you are probably not collecting applications and you are in a better position to confront CM/PM and the gullu butt who has submitted the application . Most probably such appointments at such level are made to manzoor e nazar people who usually don't object . Another point of consideration is what is illegal, collecting application and forwarding it or issuing the visa
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I think your own level of authority must also be considered in examples . If you are visa issuing authority you are probably not collecting applications and you are in a better position to confront CM/PM and the gullu butt who has submitted the application . Most probably such appointments at such level are made to manzoor e nazar people who usually don't object . Another point of consideration is what is illegal, collecting application and forwarding it or issuing the visa
What if I am a visa issuing authority and I am going through the files of these applicants or Incidentally I came across this application and I don't issue the visa?And then I am being forced & additionally every one is not always ^^-Mazoor e Nazr^^
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What if I am a visa issuing authority and I am going through the files of these applicants or Incidentally I came across this application and I don't issue the visa?And then I am being forced & additionally every one is not always ^^-Mazoor e Nazr^^
Its circumstantial, if you have just stumbled upon such an application means you are not under pressure immediately, so you would follow the rules and refuse. The pressure will start mounting later and then you can save your skin in the court by citing political pressure
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Its circumstantial, if you have just stumbled upon such an application means you are not under pressure immediately, so you would follow the rules and refuse. The pressure will start mounting later and then you can save your skin in the court by citing political pressure
Well I must say Its a pretty bad advice but I think it is the only one.
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Well I must say Its a pretty bad advice but I think it is the only one.
I understand it puts a burden upon your soul if you issue visa to a criminal. But that's how it is, you can't always be a robin hood . People will pay for their mistakes of putting bad politicians in power
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