is china taking us for granted - Page 3

soft rock · #21 Friday, October 24, 2014

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Originally Posted by mysterious me

dear fellow member i am not brother

can call me sister if you want to.

Sorry, At-least you are now open-mystery (sister)..haha

mysterious me · #22 Friday, October 24, 2014

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Originally Posted by usmanwrites

China has benefited more from this relation owing to their diplomatic skills.

completely agreed. infact this is the other side of sino pak relations. what is worrisome is that by involving china in every project we will end up making them our new masters in changing world order. we must rely on our own labours and a share must be of that extent which helps Pakistan economy as well. Also, lease to such projects should be given after clear scrutiny of previous performance. Support availed from any foreign country must be technical not wholesome. instead of importing a heap of chinese engineers in an insecure society we must send our workers to our freind china for technical training. Afterall a hungry man must be taught how to fish, instead of providing the fish.

usmanwrites · #23 Friday, October 24, 2014

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Originally Posted by soft rock

Exploitations is one-sided benefit oriented concept. When you tempt to exploit something for your purpose, it reflects the fact that are concerned only about your own interests . And when the benefits of one party only are served , other party , suffers,. Similar like you said that Pakistan could have exploited the dissent between china and India, And that’s you stance. If Pakistani government to do what maintain, obviously Pakistan , would have, but when you focus on cons and pros of an intention , you relies after you have to go for that or not. Same did the Pakistani. And our Politicians are mostly corrupt but not that not much degraded and little minded that could create obstacles for themselves at-least, or in other word to create disorder in already fragile relationship with India, and shade darkness on relationship with china.

For instance, for your understanding, I take a book from you , a book that would casual, I mean rare and unavailable in market. And I use it just to only serve my purpose, and when you ask for your book , I answer I don`t have your book ,in conditions able to serve your purpose of study, I don`t think you ll take any good effect of that when already, if our relationship , like India and Pakistan and tense, and on the other hand if we take a look of Pakistan and China relationship , that might also suffer. So obviously it creation of disorder when you exploit something. And comes out your words, which you yourself do not understand ..:p

And thanks for the rest of your comments/answers..

Regards

I didn't use 'exploitation' in it's literal sense. Try to look into the context. No country is naive to an extent that it let others exploit itself but all I wanted to say is that we should stop playing into Chinese hands and look for our own interests!

Buddha · #24 Saturday, October 25, 2014

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confusing ,if you can explain please???

I explained it in the other line that we already have strained relations with 3 out of 4 neighbours. Addition of China in the category of estranged neighbours is going to hurt Pakistan bad. It will be further isolated.

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its obvious no country has to accept or have way to inlet any implications from a second state, when it has to do maintain relationship with a third country..like china-India relationship should not be taken as bad sign for Pakistan. Pakistani itself needs more ability in foreign affairs with almost all other countries..a safe way ahead for Pakistani safe politics, If we consider Sino-india relationship not good sign for Pakistan, why not Pakistan develop its relationships with India. Problems have always been for solution, not for making the worse more..

Friendly Indo-China relations will be a bad sign for Pakistan. How? Because Pak-China friendly relations are fed only by the need to counter a common foe: India. Take this animosity out and there will be little left for Pakistan to milk something out of China. A similar case is Israel and Saudi Arabia both feel threatened because of thawing of tensions between the US and Iran.

soft rock · #25 Saturday, October 25, 2014

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Originally Posted by usmanwrites

I didn't use 'exploitation' in it's literal sense. Try to look into the context. No country is naive to an extent that it let others exploit itself but all I wanted to say is that we should stop playing into Chinese hands and look for our own interests!

When there comes the uest of "concept" about something, like I said
"Exploitation is concept( a uni-lateral approach to the term)", it shows that you have to understand the reality about , what is called a concept. and not being literal about a term.. Anyways Good attempt. Thanks.

soft rock · #26 Saturday, October 25, 2014

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Originally Posted by usmanwrites

I didn't use 'exploitation' in it's literal sense. Try to look into the context. No country is naive to an extent that it let others exploit itself but all I wanted to say is that we should stop playing into Chinese hands and look for our own interests!

When there comes the quest of "concept" about something, like I said "Exploitation is concept( a uni-lateral approach to the term)", it shows that you have to understand the reality about , what is called a concept. and not being literal about a term.. Anyways your did a Good attempt. Thanks.

Stay Blessed..!!!

usmanwrites · #27 Saturday, October 25, 2014

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Originally Posted by soft rock

When there comes the quest of "concept" about something, like I said "Exploitation is concept( a uni-lateral approach to the term)", it shows that you have to understand the reality about , what is called a concept. and not being literal about a term.. Anyways your did a Good attempt. Thanks.

Stay Blessed..!!!

Acha

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