It was really sad to see that video being flashed again and again on our TV screens. In the past too, the lawyers had committed excesses but were spared for example Beating of Dr. Sher Afghan and when a gang of lawyers wrecked havoc in the office of EDO (R) faisalabad and beat the hell out of the staff there but were spared. All this has added to their strength and confidence they feel that they can lay their hands on anyone and do whatever they can.

I agree with Mr. Adil Memon when he say's that attack on Police is just like attack on the state on Pakistan as Police is the authority through which a state keeps law and order in normal times. As with all departments police department has blacksheeps in their rows but this is no way to deal with them. Just because the Investigation officer did not conduct the inquiry according to the whims of those lawyers a Police officer cannot be beaten in Public. I stress that stern action be taken against those responsible and an example be set for others.

Discipline regarding professional degrees names should be maintained over here. Whatever one's views ought to be but the expression of those or these views must be in a dignified manner. I think, it distinguishes between educated and un.
Hope you don't mind because we are in such a forum where friendly environment is its identity.

Lawyer violence! come to an end learnt daily times editorial, friday, 31, july,2oo9

An FIR has been registered against five lawyers who publicly beat up an assistant sub-inspector (ASI) of police at the sessions courts in Lahore. Unfortunately, the whole episode was watched by the nation on TV. As the ASI was being thrashed, people simply stood around and watched, including other armed policemen on duty there. Such is the terror of the lawyers’ community since it embraced the habit of violence in 2007. This has to be stopped.

The reason for dusting the ASI’s jacket was simple, as reported in the press. The lawyers were defending an accused in a kidnapping case and had lost the case because of the ASI’s investigation. They asked the ASI to step into the barroom, and when he resisted, gave him the blows that the entire nation saw with its head bowed in shame. A police official has asked the Supreme Court to take suo moto notice of lawyer atrocities. But we think, more than that, the lawyers’ community should itself come forward and rebuke this behaviour by punishing the five ruffians.

There is really no need on the part of senior lawyers to defend everything other lawyers do. The phase of giving Chief Justice Chaudhry a leg-up is gone. Now it should be business as usual and the lawyers must go back to being normal law-abiding citizens. The latest incident is one in a series — a day earlier they had misbehaved with a civil judge in Lahore — proving that some lawyers have misunderstood the entire campaign for the independence of the judiciary and must be set right. One effective way would be to disbar the guilty ones. They can go and be whatever they want to become but not lawyers.

Thank you all the respectable fellows. But i think this should be not the issue to be emotional. We have to keenly obeserve what is happening now and in what should be the result of these leisure activities.

In my personal point of view This is not the "Legal law of Badmashi". This is the game by Govt. As there is the case agaisnt Gen.Mushraf in Supreme Court. And this opens the new doors of corruption even in present Govt. So this is the well planned game to create distance among Lawyers and General public to divert the attention of public to this issue. But we must be untied and trying to find those black sheeps among us. and kindly dont be harsh and emotional to each other.


Regards

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My dears,

Whatever law and lawyers are, we have to look at the situation.. if a lawyer beats a police man, it might be in a fit of anger and its something psychological yar, one can kill even oneself in anger and of course suicides are done in a similar fit of mental state. if one lawyer be made the precedent for law breaking then one police man can also be made the precedent for lawlessness and cruelty when an ASI beat the Chief justice of Pakistan, the worthy and most honourable person in the country and so to say much more worthy than even the president and he was pulled from his hair by a police man.. i'm sure an ordinary lawyer is much much more learned than even a DSP police therefore is worth respecting. AAlim enjoys a status in the society and we must respect an AAlim and a lawyers is definitely an aaalim as compared to a policeman. The lawyer who beat the ASI must have been hurt by the ASI and thats why he was beaten. if one hurts u, what would u do? if yr younger brother at home says, 'jaao mara may nahe karta,' tu what will you say? definitely u'll have bad feeling about him and of course would take some action.. its only an example my brother.. there are scores o such cases in which the police never take into account the decision of the court and of course the court has the authority to issue orders for the arrest of even a DIG police it was only an ASI...

Any comments to correct me or deviate my thinking are welcome...

Regards,
Cosmic libertine

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I guess the results of the poll at the top of this thread show each one of us the voice of the people, which are mostly educated and enlightened aspirants and CSP's..

so any more humble comments from my side are not needed in this regard...

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Lahore High Court CJ has taken a suo muto notice of this BADMASHI
http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-ne...awyers-torture

not only the police is the victom of their torture but the journalists were also protesting against them in yesterday THe News.

Bottom Line........................
they dont care anymore about anything.
whatever sensitive department u belong, avoid kala coat.

the thing is that this was not a single lawyer beating the policeman and journalists, rather they were, i think, almost five.
so this is thier group behavior at collective level.

Thats what we r trying to say brother... if u look at this incident only instead of looking at attitude of police that beating was totally uncalled for... moreover it should b taken seriously because police is the instrument of the state power may it be dictator or democrat in power... therefore its supremacy should be ensured...

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My Dear,


U have said it pretty well, every one must be respected... since u now belong to the police community, i'd advise kindly not to adopt any such attitude or behaviour to the lawyers, or the common men or the ones who come in contact with u. u no wot, we pakistanis are very much intolerant towards our surrounding. when i drive on the road, no one is caring enough to give u even a second to pass by, every man is in a hurry. when i show little patience and manners by stopping for the pedistrians, the man who is crossing the road raises his hand in thanks and appreciates my manners but the same man wont be tolerant when once he drives a car. well, its the duty of us educated lot who can change the manners of others as well as our own. if even we dont follow ettiquet, who else in the 51% illiterate lot of the country is expected to do it... i guess a man is dangerous when he is ignorant, but the one who knows and becomes ignorant is more dangerous..

hope we make some exemplary citizens for others... yr duty is much more bounding cos u gonna be the ASP saab... u gotta end the malpractices in yr dept i feel.. i'd love to join u in STP if i qualify for PSP inCSS 09 exam.

Regards,
Cosmic libertine

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Dawn Editorial

Lawyers turn violent

IN Punjab, the rule of law seems to begin and end outside the lawyers’ workplaces. Just recently, lawyers in Lahore ran amok. They attacked the office of a senior district administration official, forcing the government to transfer her; they locked a family court judge inside the courtroom; they publicly thrashed a police official inside a sessions court and, to top it all, they beat up a cameraman who covered their brutal treatment of the cop. Their ruthless attack on revenue officials in Faisalabad, scuffles with Wapda officials in Kasur and Gujranwala and their internal fracas over the presidency of the Lahore High Court Bar Association are also of recent origin. According to the Punjab police chief, district courts work in awe of the lawyers and cannot give independent verdicts.

This raises some fundamental questions: do the lawyers see themselves standing atop a societal heap after the success of their movement for the restoration of the judges? Do they think that courts owe their independence to them and, therefore, should work in their thrall? Do they believe that they can take on anyone, any department, any authority, any gov- ernment without fear of punishment?

So far the answers to these questions appear to be in the affirmative. The belief that the lawyers movement was nothing but a revolution has led the black-coats to trample on anyone and everything considered anathema. The media and civil society chose to look the other way when they humiliated, insulted and tortured opponents of their movement. But violence begets violence and justifying its use for a noble cause only allows it to be perpetrated for less noble, even ignoble, objectives. The blood-streaked face of the cameraman the lawyers beat up in Lahore confirms this. The leaders of the bar, bar associations and bar councils and, most importantly, the judges of the superior courts should come out openly and unambiguously against those lawyers who take the law into their hands and use aggression and violence to get their way. Shunning responsibility by blaming the violence on ‘elements’ bent upon giving lawyers a bad name is certainly not the way to go about it.


The News

Lawyers bar journalists from entering courts

Saturday, August 01, 2009
By our correspondent

LAHORE: A group of lawyers, under the supervision of an office-bearer of the Lahore Bar Association (LBA), on Friday banned the entry of all journalists in the premises of all the subordinate courts of the city for showing live video footage of thrashing of an ASI at the hands of the custodians of the law. They warned if any journalist dared enter the premises of the subordinate courts he or she would receive treatment not different from the one received by the ASI, a family court judge and two media men.

On Thursday, a group of lawyers gave a good thrashing to a reporter and a cameraman of a private news channel at the Sessions Court for making footage of some lawyers who were beating an ASI of Nishtar Colony police station three days back. They also manhandled an Additional District & Sessions Judge when he refused to cancel the FIR registered against them on the complainant of the victim cop.

Two days ago, the lawyers thrashed senior court reporter Shaheen Attique and his camera man Nasir Hussain. The latter fell unconscious due to the brutal torture by the violent lawyers who were led by M R Awan, vice president the Lahore Bar Association.

The lawyers involved in the incident were identified as Sajjad Afzal, Mehar Jahangir, Malik Mohammad Hanif and Rana Asif. After the incident, journalists community announced to boycott all functions of the lawyers until the high ups take against the lawyers.

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hi,
LAWYERS, r nt rite,its true,bt media should nt create anarchy by showing
the video again&again...its the insult of ASI&his family,,,,its really intersting scene 4 audience bt v shuld imagine the condition of the ASI&his family.
regards