Agar aap apnay Imam ko Imam Mehdi sabit karna chahti hain to ye possible nahin hai .. Imam Mehdi paida hon ge InshaAllah, kisi ghaar mein nahin hain ..
Aur wo Islam per hi mohar lagayen ge, koi contradictory saheefay nahin laayen ge .. The books that PZ guy was referring to and the books that whole group follows are contradictory and not within the ambit of Islam ..

acha! yeh apki baat theek hai. Quraan k siwa kisi kitaab ka ALLAH OR NABI ne zima nahi lia, hadees or Aqwaal ki kutab zarur hain, laikin TAREEKH ko jis tarha mora gya hai woh ap k khyaal se bhi bahir hai, main yahan munh utha k baat nahi kr rhi sirf net se 3rd class references utha k MASHALLAH I have studied not only ISLAM, but other religions ki history as well, and have researched on these issues as well or aik or iqrar bhi krdun agar baat chal nikli hai k I belong to a convert family from Sunnis to Shia, hum log research k beghair shia nahi huwe.

Ap aik aik kar k reference samne lay k ayen or muztarib hiran ki tarha sawalon ki bochaar na kijiye..1-1 baat kijiye i will answer to ur queries magar jawab ap ko bhi daina hoga!

u cant be done so easily. baat krain na..jub koi baat krne aya hai to ap bhagnay niklay like those shia sahibaan do jin ka aap bta rahe hain?

bhai sahab IMAM MAHDI paida hon ya woh ZINDA hain, insaan hone k natay mujhe to is baat se fark hi nahi parta kiun k unka maqsad mere liye ziada aham hai...

or i would like to see that AUTHENTIC hawala jahan yeh btaya gya hai k IMAM MAHDI paida hon ge. m waiting

Aap authentic hawala dain k wo ghaar mein hain ..
Aur maqsad to main ne bataa diya, wo Islam per hi mohar lagaayen ge .. Wo naoozubillah ye nahin kahain ge k asal Islam ye tha jo main ab batanay laga hun, jo aap follow kartay rahay hain wo nahin tha .. Un k maqasid ka aapko bhi pata hai ..

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:@xaara~hussain
we are just begging PZ that if he had some problem with pious calipa's,keep it to himself,dont blame,abuse them.All companions of Holy Prophet are most pious,respectful and sagacious personalities.
those Calipha's were included on top list of ashra mubashra (the ten people, claimed to been promised paradise by the Prophet) they are .
Abu Bakr
Umer
Uthman
Ali ibn Abu Talib
Talha
Zubair bin al-Awwam
Saad bin Abi Waqas
Saeed bin Zaid
Abdul Rahman ibn Awf
Saad bin Malik
Abu `Ubaida bin al-Jarrah
so whats the point of attacking them? the historical background should be on one side...but u cant deny the fact..that they were most closed to the Holy Prophet and Allah.
If i am wrong plz let me know.

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jang-e-jamal k baray main ap hazraat k kya khyalaat hain? ab yeh na kahna k yeh jhoota waqiya hai FPSC k paper tak main yeh question aya hai.

mutlub yeh k koi aik haq pe or koi aik baatil pe zarur tha. kuch to tha. hosakta hai kisi 3RD PARTY ne ghalat-fahmiyan paida ki hon.magar kuch to hai na?

to main apko daawat daiti hoon k is pe chaan been kijiye

Asal mein ye log Ehal e bait k thekay daar banay huay hain .. Asal mein ye khud Sahaba ki shaan mein gustakhi kartay hain, aur sochtay hain k hum log Ehal e bait se bughaz rakhtay hain naoozubillah ..
We respect them more than these people do, cz we do it in the right way .. Lekin kuch cheezain acceptable nahin hain .. Jaisay aik shia bazurg mujhay aik gaaon mein milay, and he openly said k Hubb e Ali yaad rakho aur main tumhain guarantee deta hun k tum chahay namaz na parrho, rozay na rakho tum jannati ho .. Astaghfaar .. ye kaisa Islam hai .. ? Is it that simple .. ?

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If he cursed them, abused them, he did wrong! plz show me his words.

I respect all sahaba-e-karaam. or Rasool Allah or un k sahabiyon per jaan bhi qurbaan hai. mera maqsad hate speech nahi, balkay mera msg love hai jo maine apne mazhab ISLAM se seekha hai.

magar agar koi 3rd class literature or references laa k keechar uchalay ga, to jawab daina sub jante hain magar bahas braye bahas ka faida nahi! haan, jo tahzeeb k dairay main rah k izzat se baat krna chahe to meri jaan bhi hazir hai!

bhai sahab tameez se baat kijiye ga. THAIKA JO AP NE ISLAM ka lia hua ha na woh Khumaar main ap ka chand lamhon main choor kr sakti hoon main forum ka lehaaz kr rhi hoon or krun gi.

SUPERMOD kahan hain to warn???????????????????????????????

or yeh shia budhay baba k pass taleem ki kami thi aisay paindu gaon walay yahi kahain ge ayen main apko btati hoon.,,
NAMAZ k beghair sub amaal bekaar hain, NABI SE PYAR BEKAAR HAI HUB-E-ALI BEKAAR HAI....

Haq aur Batil k elawa ghalt fehmi bhi ho sakti hai .. Aur uss soorat mein dono theek hotay hain
Hum mein se kabhi kisi ne nahin kaha k uss waqeya mein Hazrat Ali naoozubillah ghalt thay, lekin shia hazrat Ayesha k baray mein kya kya kehtay hain .. ?

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@ Last Island

I was just kidding regarding your copy paste ,see my there.
I am thankful that you have sense of constructive dialogue Which tkno1 lacks.

Authentic references
It is recorded in Siratu'l-Halabiyya, p.39, compiled by Ali Bin Burhanu'd-din Halabi Shafi'i (died 1044 A.H.) that at first Fatima remonstrated with Abu Bakr that she owned Fadak and that it had been given to her by the Holy Prophet of Allah. Since witnesses were not available, she was forced to claim her right according to the law of inheritance.

Also Imam Fakhru'd-din Razi in his Tafsir-e-Kabir concerning the claim of Fatima; Yaqut Hamawi in his Mu'ajamu'l-Buldan; Ibn Abi'l-Hadid Mu'tazali in Sharh-e-Nahju'l-Balagha, vol.IV, p. 80, from Abu Bakr Jauhari and the Ibn Hajar in Sawa'iq-e-Muhriqa, p.21, under the heading Shuhubhat-e-Rafza, VII Shubha, narrate that the first claim of Fatima was that Fadak had been a gift. When her witnesses were rejected, she was much pained and said in anger that she would not talk to Abu Bakr and Umar again.

If it was not a gift How it was confiscated?
Why the Lady of Paradise demanded it back?
You get inheritance after the death of owner.

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