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xaara~hussain · #51 Sunday, February 13, 2011

Li, theknw1,PZ and everyone,

janab jub QURAAN PAK ki unatuthentic copies distayaab hain , to asool-e-kaafi,saheefa-e-sajjadia or baqi sub hadees ki kutab ki kya baat. (LI ap bhooli to nahi na valentine wali post????)

Agar waqai yeh tolerant logon ka forum hai or kuch logon ne bohot disgust se jawab daine ki koshish ki hai, to sub se pahle hum sub musalmaan hain, bahas ki bjyae remove the differences.

baat itni hai k agar main SAHEEH kutab se koi aisi hadees le aun jo apko nagwaar guzray or phir ap us ko manain nahi to pahle bta dijiye, kya krna chahiye?

or bhai Pakistan Zindabad, mujhe afsos hai ap ne aik controversial topic ko hawa di hai bar bar puch k!

bahr haal! mujhe is mozu pe baat nahi krna, sirf itna k hamare andr religious tolerance naam ki cheez nahi

Armghaan · #52 Sunday, February 13, 2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by tknw01

"hamaray pas mushaf e Fatima hai aur logon ko kya khabar woh kya hai. Us men tumharay Quran se 3 guna zyada hai aur Allah ki qasam ismen tumharay Quran ka aik haraf bhi nahi hai." (words attributed to Hazrat Ali R.A, Asool e Kafi, Page no. 146)

ab inka asal saheefa jo hai woh inka aakhri imaam le ke bhag gaya tha, kaheen pahaar ki ghaar (cave) men chup gaya hai ja ke.. woh men agay chal ke batata hun uska reference bhi.. qayamat ke nazdeek ja ke saheefa le ke niklay ga.. banda in se poochay asal Quran agar wohi tha nauzubillah to agar qayamat ke pas ja kar laey ga tumhara imam to uska kisi ko kya faida??? becharay din rat duain mangtay hen ke "Aey Allah Imam ka nikalna asaan farma.." LOL

this is not done .... n u shoul dnever say this ,, ye jazbat mei a k ap apne eman ko mazboot nae balkey gira rhey hain...
u shndt hav used these words .. IMAM al hujat Imam Mehdi (A.S) iz being respect by whole muslim world as well as christians.
and there are so many evidences about him and his existence that if i start here you wont be able to deny anyone of them..
i would request moderator to please go through these words n this is some thing not acceptable.. we are not here to fight or critize.
jis ko jo theek lagta ha likh dia.
kuch bi hojaye eveyrone has thr own views and beleifs n no one gonna accept othrs.

newayz am sorry if i hurt anyones feelins or respect.. i shared whn got me hurt by this guyz words n offcourse many other ppl like me wont tolerate this aswell.
if thr r any personal matters thn itz better to b solved thru emails..phone numz..or meeting along.

tknw01 · #53 Sunday, February 13, 2011

Now I request PZ & anyone (holding the same views) to counter my references please. Meanwhile, I was looking if anything has remained unanswered.. lekin I think LI has replied to PZ with references as well. So, I'll definitely wait if some counter arguments or explanation (of any of the references I posted) is given.
Personally, I felt very bad while writing all that. asal men yeh log taqiya kartay hen na to pata nahi lagta ke yeh kya bat dil se kar rahay hen aur kya bat taqiyay ki ru se, isliay men ne socha ke kisi tarah inki books pe hath dala jaey.. & don't ask how difficult that is... aap mang ke dekh lo kisi shiya sahab se Asool e Kafi ya koi si aur book, they'll never lend it.. in any case whatsoever.. hazar bahanay karain ge ke ji woh gum ho gayi hai aagay peechay ho gayi hai.. falan falan.. Anyhow, I guess I am done here for the moment..

Stunner · #54 Sunday, February 13, 2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by Armghaan

this is not done .... n u shoul dnever say this ,, ye jazbat mei a k ap apne eman ko mazboot nae balkey gira rhey hain...
u shndt hav used these words .. IMAM al hujat Imam Mehdi (A.S) iz being respect by whole muslim world as well as christians.
and there are so many evidences about him and his existence that if i start here you wont be able to deny anyone of them..
i would request moderator to please go through these words n this is some thing not acceptable.. we are not here to fight or critize.
jis ko jo theek lagta ha likh dia.
kuch bi hojaye eveyrone has thr own views and beleifs n no one gonna accept othrs.

newayz am sorry if i hurt anyones feelins or respect.. i shared whn got me hurt by this guyz words n offcourse many other ppl like me wont tolerate this aswell.
if thr r any personal matters thn itz better to b solved thru emails..phone numz..or meeting along.

Yahan Imam Mehdi ki baat to nahin ho rahi ..

Last Island · #55 Sunday, February 13, 2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pakistan Zindabaad

My Dear Last Island,

Now,You are resorting to copy paste

anyhow, show some relevance.

You gave the reference, didnt you? Rather than saying something fabricated, I rely on Quran and great Mufassireens.

Quote:

"And give to the near of kin his due and (to) the needy and the wayfarer, and do not squander wastefully." (17:26)

I have replied earlier about this ayat. Read it again.

Quote:

." The Holy Prophet called Fatima and said: "Allah has commanded me to bestow Fadak as a gift to you." So he immediately gave possession of Fadak to Fatima.

Show me the authentic reference.

Quote:

In Above mentioned source Inheritance was discussed.
Moreover, the writer of commentary has resorted to analogy(Qisas) in the interpretation of Inheritance.
He has bifurcated inheritance in to Material & Knowledge.Which is futile itself ,but i will not argue on it. Because Fidak Was GIFTED ( Not Inherited) by Prophet(saww) Before his death to the Lady of Paradise.thats why it was confiscated. after The Death of Prophet(Saww)

Contradictions in your statements.

I have placed my Quran with translation and Tafseer in front of you. Bring forth your reliable source.

Armghaan · #56 Sunday, February 13, 2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stunner

Yahan Imam Mehdi ki baat to nahin ho rahi ..

jis ko mei ne likha ha us ka achi tarha samjh agaye ho gi us ne kab baat ki ha Imam mehdi ki aur kya kaha ha .

xaara~hussain · #57 Sunday, February 13, 2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by tknw01

Now I request PZ & anyone (holding the same views) to counter my references please. Meanwhile, I was looking if anything has remained unanswered.. lekin I think LI has replied to PZ with references as well. So, I'll definitely wait if some counter arguments or explanation (of any of the references I posted) is given.
Personally, I felt very bad while writing all that. asal men yeh log taqiya kartay hen na to pata nahi lagta ke yeh kya bat dil se kar rahay hen aur kya bat taqiyay ki ru se, isliay men ne socha ke kisi tarah inki books pe hath dala jaey.. & don't ask how difficult that is... aap mang ke dekh lo kisi shiya sahab se Asool e Kafi ya koi si aur book, they'll never lend it.. in any case whatsoever.. hazar bahanay karain ge ke ji woh gum ho gayi hai aagay peechay ho gayi hai.. falan falan.. Anyhow, I guess I am done here for the moment..

bhai sahab main to isi confusion main hoon k LI AND JAZIBROOMI sahab QURAAN ki aik ayat pe muttafiq na ho sake, to ap ko lagta hai k ALI, jin k baray Rasool ne kaha k
"MUN KUNTO MOLA FA HAZA ALIYUN MOLA" jis jis ka main MOLA us us ka YEH ALI MOLA" kya woh yeh kah sakte hain k un k ilfaaz QURAN se buland hain NAUZBILLAH? to mutlub jhoot sach likhne wale har faction main hain!!! or hazrat Ali ka apna qol hai k jub tum aisi cheez pao jo mutasadam ho, to mantaq k paimaanay per tol k dekho" to janab ap apni logical sense istmaal krain.
kitna propgnda or jhoota literature dstiyaab hai us ka andaza apko LIA n jaziroomi ki AYAT wli bahas se ho jana chahiye,.

so grow up and talk on some ground realities.

jahan tak baat IMAM MAHDI AS ki hai, to bhai yeh to sunni bhi mante the kuch arsa pahle k IMAM MAHDI ayen ge. M I RIGHT GUYS?

main in sub jahilana quotations ki tardeed krti hoon. or jahan tak rightly guided caliphs ki baat hai, to us pe baat krna chahain to main kroon gi. bus LI se ijazat le lijiye....

xaara~hussain · #58 Sunday, February 13, 2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stunner

Yahan Imam Mehdi ki baat to nahin ho rahi ..

IMAM MAHDI ki tazheeq jo theknw1 sahab ne ki hai, woh ap ko nazar nahi ayiii?

tknw01 · #59 Sunday, February 13, 2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by Armghaan

this is not done .... n u shoul dnever say this ,, ye jazbat mei a k ap apne eman ko mazboot nae balkey gira rhey hain...
u shndt hav used these words .. IMAM al hujat Imam Mehdi (A.S) iz being respect by whole muslim world as well as christians.
and there are so many evidences about him and his existence that if i start here you wont be able to deny anyone of them..
i would request moderator to please go through these words n this is some thing not acceptable.. we are not here to fight or critize.
jis ko jo theek lagta ha likh dia.
kuch bi hojaye eveyrone has thr own views and beleifs n no one gonna accept othrs.

newayz am sorry if i hurt anyones feelins or respect.. i shared whn got me hurt by this guyz words n offcourse many other ppl like me wont tolerate this aswell.
if thr r any personal matters thn itz better to b solved thru emails..phone numz..or meeting along.

bhai asal problem yeh hai ke hamaray walay Imam Mehdi ne peda hona hai aur apkay walay cave men chupay huay hen according to your own books.. rahi bat ke men personal ho gya tha.. I don't think so.. Men ne sirf apki books se quote kiya hai nothing else, woh bhi already keh chuka hun ke men kabhi na karta agar yeh bhai keechar uchalna shuru na kartay..

Quote:

Originally Posted by xaara~hussain

Li, theknw1,PZ and everyone,

janab jub QURAAN PAK ki unatuthentic copies distayaab hain , to asool-e-kaafi,saheefa-e-sajjadia or baqi sub hadees ki kutab ki kya baat. (LI ap bhooli to nahi na valentine wali post????)

Agar waqai yeh tolerant logon ka forum hai or kuch logon ne bohot disgust se jawab daine ki koshish ki hai, to sub se pahle hum sub musalmaan hain, bahas ki bjyae remove the differences.

baat itni hai k agar main SAHEEH kutab se koi aisi hadees le aun jo apko nagwaar guzray or phir ap us ko manain nahi to pahle bta dijiye, kya krna chahiye?

or bhai Pakistan Zindabad, mujhe afsos hai ap ne aik controversial topic ko hawa di hai bar bar puch k!

bahr haal! mujhe is mozu pe baat nahi krna, sirf itna k hamare andr religious tolerance naam ki cheez nahi

Quran pak ki alhamdulillah agar koi unauthentic copy dastiyab bhi hai to uspar poori ummat ka ijma hai ke asal aayat kya hain.. laakhon haffaz e karam hen dunya men.. apart frm that kaheen bhi zer zabar ka farq nahi hai alhamdulillah.. aur agar aapkay pas saheeh kutab se koi references hen to zaroor laaiyay.. you're most welcome.. ismen pareshani ki kya bat hai?

xaara~hussain · #60 Sunday, February 13, 2011

@ theknw1

hamaray walay ap k walay jo bhi hain beliefs main diff hai, magar unki entity ko sub mante hain so plz stop ridiculing. Christians trnity main belief rkhte hain to ap un k GOD ko disgust krain ge NAUZBILLAH? JEWS k GOD ko b kiun k unka belief diff hai?

apke walay ne paida kub hona hai? kahan hona hai?kis ki nasal se ana hai? koi information hamain bhi dijiye...koi reference?

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