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Islam Invite to the Way of your Lord with wisdom and fair preaching, and argue with them in a way that is better. Truly, your Lord knows best who has gone astray from His Path, and He is the Best Aware of those who are guided." Holy Qur'an 16:125

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Imam Baqir se riwayat hai jee keh..

"jo admi yeh dawa karay ke uskay pas poora Quran hai jesay ke nazil hua tha woh kazzab hai, Allah ki tanzeel ke mutabiq Quran ko sirf Ali ne aur unkay bad aaima karam ne jama kiya aur usko mehfooz rakha." (Asool e Kafi, Page no. 139)

Jafar Sadiq ki riwayat...

"Jab Imam ghayb uz zaman (urf cave walay) zahir hon ge to woh Quran ko asli aur sahi tor pe parhain ge aur Quran ka woh nuskha nikalain ge jis ko Ali ne likha.. Jab Ali ne usko poora kar liya tha to logon se kaha yeh asal kitab hai aur men ne isko loh se jama kiya hai, logon ne kaha humain tumharay Quran ki zaroorat nahi.. ispar Ali ne farmaya ke khuda ki qasam aaj ke bad tum isko kabhi na dekh sako ge." (Asool e Kafi, Page no. 671)
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Is it right to discuss all this .. ? I m sorry but i think this kinda discussion should not be allowed .. Isn't this a pathway to preach watever they have .. ? This can astray some who have limited or no knowledge ..
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Is it right to discuss all this .. ? I m sorry but i think this kinda discussion should not be allowed .. Isn't this a pathway to preach watever they have .. ? This can astray some who have limited or no knowledge ..
They are giving knowledge with solid proofs.
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Baqir Majlisi sahab Jafar Sadiq se riwayat kartay hen... ghor se parhain aur Catholic Christianity aur is deen men similarity samajhnay ki koshish karain..

"Rasool e khuda ne dua kee ke aey Allah meray bhai Ali ke shiyon aur meray un farzandon ke jo unkay wasi hen aglay pichlay roz e qayamat tak ke sab gunah tu mujh per laad de aur shiyon ke gunahon ki wajah se tu mujhay peghambaron ke darmiyan ruswa na karna.. to phir Allah ne shiyon ke tamam gunah Rasool per laad diyay." (Haqq ul yaqeen, page no. 148)

matlab jo marzi kartay phiro.. Christians ki tarah Ali R.A is the saviour. Hu bahu wohi concept hai ke nahi?? Wanna see more similarities?? Yahoodiyon ke apostles total kitnay hen bhala?? 12! Yes twelve.. inkay imam kitnay hen? Twelve.. han albattah kuch ikhtilaf kartay hen ke beech men imamat kaheen aur ko chali gayi thi.. Pak Zindabad bhai correct me if I am wrong..

Acha aik aur behooda riwayat check karain... Jafar Sadiq R.A se bohtan bandha hai.. bhala woh itni neech bat karain ge??

"kisi gher muslim mard ya aurat ki sharamgah ko dekhna aisay hi hai jesay gadhay ki sharamgah ko dekhna (yani koi gunah nahi.. mujhay to yehi samajh lagi hai..)" (Faro e Kafi, Vol 2, Part 3, Page no. 61)

Yar itna kuch kafi hai ke aur likhoon.. meray pas dheron dher mojood hen aisay references ke.. laikin mera hath thak gya hai.. mera khayal hai bas karta hun.. aur PZ sahab ki post ka reply karta hun jo mera khayal hai kab ke ja chukay hen..
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They are giving knowledge with solid proofs.
I don't know .. I mean, i m just feeling sad on reading all this .. I admit that i didn't know much of this before, but isn't Islam being defamed in the process .. ?
I admit i don't have much knowledge on this issue, so, just asking ..
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Dear Imbindas,
Why you are meddling in the affairs, about the context of which you are unaware.
Dear i am Replying to Last island In response of her controversial thread.I am not here to address sectarian issues.I am Just quoting historical facts.
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you talked about Pious Calipha's in most Ridiculous way,what am i suppose to do? you want me to award you a medal.Dude i dont care what history say,i have deep love and respect for all sahaba karam and companions of Holy Prophet.
we are not going to impress by your Hypocritic slogan "Muslim Unity Zindabad" first being act as a muslim.
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Copy paste ka yehi masla hai. This Ayat is in 17th Surah and you pasted as it is with an obvious mistake.



Surah Bani Israel is a Makki surah. Khyber was conquered in 6th Hijri, long after the revelation of this Ayat. Then how come this Ayat is related to Fadak?
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As far as 7 or 17 are concerned ,I wrote 17 ,but I don't have editing option which you have.
you understand what i mean

Dear, I am well aware of Anachronism.Regarding the revelation of this verse of Al-israa(Bani -Israel) is concerned Scholars of Other school of thought have also endorse this point of view so their is no question of Anachronism in this Verse.

Bazaz, Abu Yula, Abu Hatim and Ibn Marduwayh relate on the authority of Abu Sa-id Khudhri that as soon as this verse was revealed the Holy Prophet at once gave the garden of Fadak to his daughter, The Lady of Paradise.
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I don't know .. I mean, i m just feeling sad on reading all this .. I admit that i didn't know much of this before, but isn't Islam being defamed in the process .. ?
I admit i don't have much knowledge on this issue, so, just asking ..
Yes sadness is the only outcome of the above all posts
No,Islam is not getting defamed because it is not Facebook,here only 3% people from India can see these posts and I don't think they will take any interest in Islamic posts!
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After the death Of Prophet(saww) ,caliphs confiscated Fadak on the basis of the well known hadith narrated by Abu Bakr the 1st caliph, who declared that he had himself heard the Holy Prophet say: "We prophets do not leave behind any legacy; whatever we leave as inheritance is charity" (i.e., the property of umma)

Lady of Paradise rejected the hadith on the ground that, if the hadith were true, then why were there so many verses about the inheritances of the prophets. She said: "At one place the Holy Qur'an says, 'And Solomon was David's heir.'"(27:16)


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About the prophet Zakariyya the Holy Qur'an says: "Therefore grant me from thyself an heir, who shall inherit of me and inherit (also) of the house of Jacob." (19,5-6)

About Zakariyya's invocation the Holy Qur'an says: "And Zakariyya, when he cried to his Lord: 'O my Lord, leave me not childless, though Thou art the best of inheritors.' So we responded to him and gave him Yahya." (21: 89,90)


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Dear Last Island,

As far as 7 or 17 are concerned ,I wrote 17 ,but I don't have editing option which you have.
you understand what i mean

Dear, I am well aware of Anachronism.Regarding the revelation of this verse of Al-israa(Bani -Israel) is concerned Scholars of Other school of thought have also endorse this point of view so their is no question of Anachronism in this Verse.

Bazaz, Abu Yula, Abu Hatim and Ibn Marduwayh relate on the authority of Abu Sa-id Khudhri that as soon as this verse was revealed the Holy Prophet at once gave the garden of Fadak to his daughter, The Lady of Paradise.
Come on (Pakistan Zindabad) this is too much of **** from your side! Now you are making all this personal by attacking on Last Island for playing with your posts??? Stop your nonsense and Answer (tknow1). Please refrain countering "Me", "Imbindas" or even Last Island. Please carry on thy worth for nothing debate with "tknow1" who is flipping your so called "VERY DEEN DAR KNOWLEDGE" like a kabab on hot tawa.
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