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nahi ji nahi bilkul koi jageer nahi hai, aap likhain jo likhna hai, zaroor likhain.. lekin agar aap Sahaba karam ko respect de rahi hen to actually hum kaheen differ nahi kar rahay you know.. masala isee bat pe shuru hua tha na..



bibi mujhay achi tarah se ahl e bait ka maqam pata hai alhamdulillah.. aapkay authors ko shayd nahi pata.. reh gayi gandi zuban use karnay ki aur intolerant honay ki to men to bohat thanday mizaj ka banda hun, men koi intolerant waghera nahi ho raha tha.. I was just defending worthy companions of Prophet P.B.U.H thts all.. baqi gandi zuban aapki books men hi hai, jisko Xaara deny kar rahi hen ke ji woh books sahi nahi hen.. isee liay I told her ke agar aapka belief in chizon per nahi hai to meri apki behes hi koi nahi hai.. Got that?
ji woh aik alaihda baat hai magar ap ne kaha ap is thread main phir kya krne ayen hain to maine ap ko yaad dila diya

or main koi new firqay ki nahi SHIA ko or islam ko represent krti hun...so i m IN dude
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Bhai sahab so jaayen jaa k .. Aapko neend aa rahi hai ..
Aap ghaliban hazrat Eesa ki baat karna chah rahay hain, Hazrat Musa ne nahin aana dobara zameen per, Hazrat Eesa aayen ge InshaAllah ..
ji hazrat Essa....ap ko samjh to agai na to chill krain.....
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Wanna see more similarities?? Yahoodiyon ke apostles total kitnay hen bhala?? 12! Yes twelve.. inkay imam kitnay hen? Twelve.. han albattah kuch ikhtilaf kartay hen ke beech men imamat kaheen aur ko chali gayi thi.. Pak Zindabad bhai correct me if I am wrong..

bhai ye lo phir ahla sunnat ka nazria

ahla sunnat bhi mantat hain k un k 12 haleefa hain

"mauvia 6th haleefa hain and 7th is umar bin abdul aziz..baqi 5 aulad e ali ma sa hon gey"(kitab ka namemuqadama ibn e haldoon)

tafseer maruf ul quran jo k ahla sunnat ki hai us ma bhi ye darj hai..i am not giving the wording written there lakin 12 hulfa k baray ma likha hai..kehtay hain to wording bataon?

tareekh ul khulfa ma ahla sunnat ullama likhtay hain k un k 12 hulfa hain..wording required?


lughat ul hadees ma bhi ahl a sunnat ka ye nazria darj hai

maulana waheed uz zaman lughat ul hadees ma 12 khulfa k baray ma likhtay hain

aur bhi reference hain

kia ab ap ahla sunnat ko bhi yahoodion sa milao gey ..shame on you
bhai personally speaking, I regard first four as Caliphs.. called rightly guided caliphs by all.. though some also consider Umar Ibn AbdulAziz Rehmatullah elaih as fifth rightly guided caliph lekin yeh 12 ka men qasam se pehli dafa sun raha hun.. I'll research on that for sure.. meri nazar se kaheen naheen guzra..
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ji hazrat Essa....ap ko samjh to agai na to chill krain.....
Ji samajh ye aaii hai k un bhai sahab ko basic ilm hi nahin hai, aur kehtay hain k unka emaan koi nahin hilaa sakta ..
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Bhai sahab so jaayen jaa k .. Aapko neend aa rahi hai ..
Aap ghaliban hazrat Eesa ki baat karna chah rahay hain, Hazrat Musa ne nahin aana dobara zameen per, Hazrat Eesa aayen ge InshaAllah ..
i am reali sorry to quote this wrong ... actually i wuz mixin this up in other thought which i will definately tell u in same msg..
InshaAllah hazrat Esa aye gey .. chalo ap batao ap muje .. mere sawal sab se yehi ha .. Ap phir Hazrat Esa ko kyun mante ho ? ab btyen muje un ki age.

reason i said musa by mistake"
He was born on the 15th Shaban 255 A.H. in the city of Samarra. The momenton us and singluar aspects of his birth greatly resembled those under which the Prophet Musa was born. The birth of Hazart Musa had signalled the downfall and extinction of the empire of Pharoah, who had ordered the slaying of all the newly born children of Bani-Israel. The Abbaside kings were similarly apprehnesive of the continuous traditions of the Holy Prophet about the birth of Imam Mehdi, who was to bring about a curse to their (Abbaside) very empire. They were, therfore, laying in ambush to discover the birth of the Imam and to put an end to his life. But the event of the Imam's birth was enveloped and shielded by the same Divine protection and miraculous phenomena which had makred the historical birth of Prophet Musa. His birth remained strictly confidential and his nursery shrouded in secrecy except to a few devotees.

The Imam's birth had coincided with the reign of al-Mutamad, the well-known Abbaside king. He, being aware of the prophecy of the twelfth Imam's birth occuring in his reign, was extremely worried and anxious to trace him out.

But on the death of Imam Hasan Askari, when he was informed about the Imam's funeral prayer having been conducted by his four year old son, his perplexity knew no bounds.

It struck his mind that this very boy must be the Imam, but he managed to hide his inner concern at the news of the existence of the young Imam. In order to get confirmation that the young Imam did in fact exist, he ordered the arrest of the Imam's mother, Janab-e-Nargis Khatoon.
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shiaz ka quran kon sa hai?

is silsalay ma mai ap logon ko sankro references dey sakta hon shia books ma sa lakin kuch references ahla sunnat ki kutab sa mulhiza a nazar hon shiaz k quran k baray ma

misri mohaqiq allama shaikh muhammad ghazali shafai apni kitab difa un al aqeeda ul ashria ma likthay hain
"mujhey baaz logoo par nihayat afsoos hota hai jo bila tahqeeq baat kartay jatey hain aur nataij ki parwa ni kartayhuwey tohmatey hank detay hain ma na aik sahab ko yeh kehtay suna k shio ka quran koi aur hai..........."
ghaliban ye maulana ap ki hee baat kar rahay they


azhar ul haq ma ap k ullama kia likhtey hain wo bhi parhiye..shiaz ka apna koi quran ni hai
shaikh muhammad al madni a sunni scholar likhtey hain k shiaz k khilaf ye propoganda hai..i dontb have reference name of his book

doctor israr ahmad likhtay kia likhtay hain wo bhi khud ja k daikhiye..reference haishia sunni mufahimat ki zaroorat o ahmiat

mazahib islam ma kia likha hai is baray ma muhey parh k bataiye plz?

and many more references..

agar ghalti ka ahsaas ho to ...
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Hazrat Isa AS aasman pe uthaye gaye hain aur aasmanon pe umar barha nahi kerti.

Ashab e Kahaf ka qissa yeh hai keh us ghar main waqt ko rok diya gya hai. Aik baar jab wo neend se bedaar huay thay to kai sau saal guzar gaye thay aur un Ashab ko mehsoos hua tha keh chund ghantay so ker uthay hain.

Imam Mehdi AS AGAR peda ho chukay hain to wo kisi ghaar main posheeda nahi hain. He just disappeared.

Hazrat Isa AS k baray main hum jantay hain wo kahan hain. Ashab e Kahaf ke baray main bhi jantay hian keh wo aik ghar main lekin hum un tak ja nahi saktay. Phir Imam Mehdi AS ke baray main koi kyun nahi janta?
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Ji samajh ye aaii hai k un bhai sahab ko basic ilm hi nahin hai, aur kehtay hain k unka emaan koi nahin hilaa sakta ..
ao kakay na baney .. jo sawal kia ha us ka jawab dein .. warna side lena band krein .. mere pyare bhai ..mei khamosh ho kyun k mei janta ho u will never accept to wht i say.
i am js givin reply of wht wuz askd.
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Hazrat Isa AS aasman pe uthaye gaye hain aur aasmanon pe umar barha nahi kerti.

Ashab e Kahaf ka qissa yeh hai keh us ghar main waqt ko rok diya gya hai. Aik baar jab wo neend se bedaar huay thay to kai sau saal guzar gaye thay aur un Ashab ko mehsoos hua tha keh chund ghantay so ker uthay hain.

Imam Mehdi AS AGAR peda ho chukay hain to wo kisi ghaar main posheeda nahi hain. He just disappeared.

Hazrat Isa AS k baray main hum jantay hain wo kahan hain. Ashab e Kahaf ke baray main bhi jantay hian keh wo aik ghar main lekin hum un tak ja nahi saktay. Phir Imam Mehdi AS ke baray main koi kyun nahi janta?
wah gi wah.. ap ka sawal ap k jawab mei hi hae.. hazrat esa ka jab zahoor ho sakta ha paidiash k bad to offcourse Imam mehdi ka zahoor bi ho sakta ha aftr his birth..
and thr are thousands of references on this.
bas muje apki samajh agaye. am no more gettin into this
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Hazrat Isa AS aasman pe uthaye gaye hain aur aasmanon pe umar barha nahi kerti.

Ashab e Kahaf ka qissa yeh hai keh us ghar main waqt ko rok diya gya hai. Aik baar jab wo neend se bedaar huay thay to kai sau saal guzar gaye thay aur un Ashab ko mehsoos hua tha keh chund ghantay so ker uthay hain.

Imam Mehdi AS AGAR peda ho chukay hain to wo kisi ghaar main posheeda nahi hain. He just disappeared.

Hazrat Isa AS k baray main hum jantay hain wo kahan hain. Ashab e Kahaf ke baray main bhi jantay hian keh wo aik ghar main lekin hum un tak ja nahi saktay. Phir Imam Mehdi AS ke baray main koi kyun nahi janta?
Ashab e Kahaf agar soye thay, to ye to nahin kaha gya k unki umar kam ho gaii thi .. Wo jitni dair soye un ki umar mein count hua ho ga wo time .. Like agar koi coma mein jaaye to jitni dair wo coma mein rahay uski age ruk jaaye gi kya .. ?
Imam Mehdi agar paida ho chukay hain jaisay k ehal e tashee k hawalay se 800 kuch hijri mein, to unki age ab tak kitni ho chuki ho gi .. Phir ye to hadees se tazad hai jis mein unki age 40 tak ho gi bataya gya hai ..
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