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1: How is a 11 year old girl who wants to continue her education a puppet in the hands of the US? 2: You mentioned that Americans are killing people in the tribal belt. Are you or are you not aware of the violence perpetrated by the TTP and other extremist groups in the country? If you have, you would know that TTP terrorism has killed many times more people than drones have. Why don't you condemn, then? It is very clear from your statements that you do not want women to have any freedom at all; your statements about being in harmony with the Islamic code are trash merely rhetoric. This time, think about what I'm saying instead of laughing. Or, if you can't answer me, please say so and save yourself further embarrassment. Last edited by Princess Royal; Friday, October 12, 2012 at 07:23 PM. Reason: avoid slang ! |
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Avoid Slang, people! Discuss like grown-ups, in a mature way! To discuss is NOT to IMPOSE your views on others, to discuss is to EXCHANGE views/opinions/ideas. In the end, no one has to necessarily agree with the other but one should always keep room for change of views/opinions/ideas when in a discussion, and if one cannot handle what the other has to say one better not indulge in any discussion !
Thank you!
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@bilal hasan
i suggest you go back to kindergarten and revise your islamic lessons carefully. A 14 year old girl asking for her right to education, the fact that her favourite personality is barack obama and she was a BBC blogger, which of these three is unacceptable by islam and which limits has she transgressed? secondly, who gives you the right/authority to comment on a 14 year old girl, who by the way prays 5 times a day, and is so passionate about her right to education that she stood against the mighty talibans. she never advocated the drone attacks so the debate about drone attacks is useless, we all condemn drone attacks unanimously.just because she was a BBC blogger makes you think she has 'exceeded her limits'! are you the 'perfect' muslim to comment on another muslim?? your idea of islam is veil and house chores, well people can hold a different opinion. by reiterating that 'she exceeded the limits and wants western empowerment for women', please present your meaningless argument with a plausible and mature reasoning. How has she exceed her limits?
One more thing i would like to ask you because you seem so much against the west, i am sure you don't use facebook or other american products. Last edited by Arain007; Saturday, October 13, 2012 at 10:23 AM. Reason: avoid use of caps |
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having diverse opinions is not a problem but intolerance towards views of others is certainly a BIG problem....
attack on malala should be condemned unanimously, because... a). lets suppose, even if malala wanted "western type of freedom" as people term it here, even then Islam does not give right to anyone to kill her. b). there are few specific conditions in which jahad is allowed, and the given situation does not fall into any of them c). Islam explicitly forbids attacks on women and children, even during war, either they are muslims, mushrik or whatever. UNLESS that woman is fighting as armed warrior against them in battle field. so, nothing could justify attack on malala what so ever. |
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Anyways i have very very aptly answered all your queries in above posts.. HERE i would like to talk about your objections to Taliban? What do you know about Taliban? Do you know Mulla Umar Mujahid? His background? He is a person who lost his one eye in a Allah's cause, he lost his 7 year son and buried his gruesome remains with his own very hands when he was killed in Bombardment, he had no personal account to be squared with Russia nor he has any with Americans, he is fighting in the way of Allah so that Islam wins and Muslims can live according to the orders of almighty Allah...He was offered Billions of Dollars in return of leaving the fight that he denied saying that money is maid that lures the non believers not me... Do you know Gulbadin Hikmatyar?certainly you won't...He has fought in more than a hundred battles leading from the front, He was in Power when Taliban decided to destroy the Budha's statue in Bamiyan, he was offered million dollars and infrastructure development that he kicked and said, we are the sons of Ghaznavis, we can destroy these idols but can't sell them... Do you know who Sirraj ud din HAqqani is?certainly you wont..His father jalal ud din Haqqani was the commander of haqqani group of Talibs, General Akhtar Abd ur Rehman asked him to accept 50 Million Rupees in return of fighting as a mercenary for Pak Army, he said : Sir, Pakistan is a Muslim country, it is our duty to guard our Muslim brothers, we don't need money for that... so think twice before speaking any shit against those true Muslims and this controversy is fabricated to pressurize Pak Army to launch an assault against Haqqanis in NOrth waziristan...That won't happen as Pak Army is weise enough not to lose their valuable assets for invaluable Malala... Quote:
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yes if you can not counter the arguments ?? simply laugh out, good approach man... |
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Fate of this thread is in your hand. I hope you people know how to save this thread from being closed.
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@bilal should I give you the endless list of innocent people brutally murdered by your heroes??
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@ Bilal Hasan
1) why don't you replace ehsanullah ehsan, im sure you'll do a better job defending the heinous crimes of the taliban as their spokesperson, forcing women to wear burqas, blowing up girls' schools, target killing of shias, not allowing women out of their houses? you think that's islam? 2) i didn't ask you to write me an essay on taliban, i am a taliban hater and i am a very much against drone attacks too. Mullah Umar is a lunatic who's slaying innocent men, women and children and that my friend is not islam! Holy Prohpet (pbuh) was against the killing of children in case you didn't know. my question is who gives him the right to force his version of islam on people, when Allah swt has given us free will. kidnapping people for ransom, slaying people is not islam!!!! 3) this thread was mainly about Malala: you have been beating about the bush and your previous posts are mere accusations. you havent stated one plausible reason why any sane person would think of malala as 'promoting western values'.. she has a right to education given to her by islam! and if it is about her liking barack obama and blogging on BBC then you need to seriously seriously need to grow up! 4) And fourthly, refrain from using slang and offensive language! @ Call for change it's futile arguing with an illogical person. i don't understand how anyone can be a taliban advocate knowing the atrocities committed by them. they should be wiped off the face of pakistan. we want a peaceful country where there is rule of law, and prosperity. we are not advocates of taliban insurgency and nor do we want a 'state within a state', where a group of armed men force their will onto others. Last edited by Arain007; Saturday, October 13, 2012 at 10:26 AM. Reason: merged |
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