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Originally Posted by osamauaf but i will explain the mafhoom) once a man convicted blasphemy in front Hazrat Ali R.A. Hazrat Ali R.A was very much near to kill him when spitted on Hazrat Ali R.A. and Hazrat R.A forgave him on inquiring he told if i had killed that man my revenge would also have involved in that act. Conclusion: Blasphemist should be killed and that's his only punishment. Because Hazrat Ali R.A would have kill him surely if did't spitted on him. And we people are not wise than Hazrat Ali R.A.

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During a battle Hazrat Ali (RA) overcame his opponent and when he was about to Kill him.. The Kafir spit on face of Hazrat Ali (RA) and Hazrat Ali instead of killing him.. Let him go..
One of the companions asked : "O door of Wisdom!! why you let him go?"
He replied :" when i was about to kill him it was for Allah . But when he spit on my face; I became angry and this became for myself instead of Allah.. So I let him go"

http://www.thecult.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1595

Those having some soft corner for blasphemers must answer what feeling would they experience if someone start abusing their parents/beloved ones infront of them?? A normal person having fine senses would surely outrage at this! Thats for sure unbearable! No level of logic and ifs and buts can justify that situation. Then how come a muslim be satisfied by arguments and such ifs and buts in such situation?? How can he bear blasphemy for his beloved prophet who is dear to him than his own life! Why the blood of his enthusiastic followers wont boil here? If these feelings dont happen to us we must blame and curse ourselves for such weak faith!

Its the result of abandoning islamic punishments that we are facing this AZAAB of terrorism right now in our country! We can be very wise, but NOT more than what Allah decided for us and delivered us through beloved prophet (P.B.U.H.). Had there been true islamic punishments for crimes, picture of our country would had been quite different.

There MUST NOT be ANY question, any doubt for a true muslim regarding the matter of respect of our Holy Prophet!!

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Originally Posted by Daisy Those having some soft corner for blasphemers must answer what feeling would they experience if someone start abusing their parents/beloved ones infront of them?? A normal person having fine senses would surely outrage at this! Thats for sure unbearable! No level of logic and ifs and buts can justify that situation. Then how come a muslim be satisfied by arguments and such ifs and buts in such situation??

1.There is no enactment about abuser who abuses someone's parents that he shall be awarded death penalty. I may slap or even forgive that person who commits so. We cant simply put – you blaspheme, you die.

2. We don't have soft corner for blasphemers but we do have hard corner for those who exploit religion for their vested interests. Isn't it an open secret that Blasphemy law is being used to settle scores between various groups in Pakistan?

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Originally Posted by Daisy How can he bear blasphemy for his beloved prophet who is dear to him than his own life! Why the blood of his enthusiastic followers wont boil here? If these feelings dont happen to us we must blame and curse ourselves for such weak faith!

We need to react rationally.

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Originally Posted by Daisy Its the result of abandoning islamic punishments that we are facing this AZAAB of terrorism right now in our country! We can be very wise, but NOT more than what Allah decided for us and delivered us through beloved prophet (P.B.U.H.). Had there been true islamic punishments for crimes, picture of our country would had been quite different.

The Blasphemy Law is not there to protect Islam or Muslims - but Mullahs to increase their hold on the gullible public.

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the west says it is their right of freedom of expression,,,,
then HOLOCAUST is the biggest lie of past century then why people are punishable in Europe further no one, even the media cannot dare to speak on that?????? HOLOCAUST must also be open for debate for every one.


EVERY TIME WHEN SOME THING HAPPENS AGAINST ISLAM THE WESTERN MEDIA , STARTS PROPAGANDA WAR AGAINST ISLAM, BECAUSE YOU KNOW ALMOST ALL THE WORLD MEDIA IS CONTROLLED BY THE JEWS AND THEY WONT MISS ANY OPPORTUNITY TO CASH IT AGAINST ISLAM..


THEY MUST REMEMBER THAT DEFENDERS ARE READY AND PROUDLY SACRIFICE THEIR LIVES FOR THEIR RELIGION AND PROPHETS (P.B.U.H) SANCTITY.


This double standard must be stopped and where is dead UN organization, Must make laws for stopping this ridiculing against any religion especially Islam. otherwise Muslims know how to defend it.

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Visual images of Muhammad (PBUH) in the non-Islamic West have always been infrequent. In the Renaissance and Early Modern period, Muhammad (PBUH) was sometimes depicted, typically in a more neutral or heroic light. These depictions began to encounter protests from Muslims, and in the age of the internet, a handful of sketch depictions printed in the European press have caused global protests and controversy, and been associated with violence.

From the Ottoman period onwards there are numerous verbal descriptions of Muhammad (PBUH) presented on calligraphic panels, commonly surrounded by an elaborate frame of illuminated decoration and either included in books or, more often, muraqqas or albums, or sometimes placed in wooden frames so that they can hang on a wall. The elaborated form of the calligraphic tradition was founded in the 17th century by the Ottoman calligrapher Hâfiz Osman. While containing a concrete and artistically appealing description of Muhammad’s (PBUH) appearance, they obey the limits against figurative depictions of Muhammad (PBUH), leaving his appearance to the viewer's imagination.

For most of its history, Islam has had a deep dislike to the lifelike portrayal of animate beings, especially human beings, and above all to the representation of Muhammad (PBUH, the last messenger of Allah —or indeed any of the preceding prophets, such as Nuh or Īsā ibn Maryām.

The Quran does not specifically condemn representative art, but it has a lot to say about paganism and idolatry.

The Noble Qur'an - Al-A'raf 7:148
Meaning -The people of (Prophet) Musa (a.s ) made in his absence, out of their ornaments, the image of calf, (for worship): it seemed to low: did they not see that it could neither speak to them, nor show them the way? They took it for worship and they did wrong. (Al-Araf - 148).

Why we do not have the picture of Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) or other prominent Sahaba? Why we all Muslims are so sensitive if someone draws an image of Prophet Mohammad (PBUH)?

It is because Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) did not permit people to draw his picture.

Hadith- “While I was with Ibn 'Abbas a man came and said, "O father of 'Abbas! My sustenance is from my manual profession and I make these pictures." Ibn 'Abbas said, "I will tell you only what I heard from Muhammad (PBUH). I heard him saying, 'Whoever makes a picture will be punished by Allah till he puts life in it, and he will never be able to put life in it.' " Hearing this, that man heaved a sigh and his face turned pale. Ibn 'Abbas said to him, "What a pity! If you insist on making pictures I advise you to make pictures of trees and any other unanimated objects." - Bukhari 3:428, Narrated Said bin Abu Al-Hasan



Hadith- “I stuffed for the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) a pillow decorated with pictures (of animals) which looked like a Namruqa (i.e. a small cushion). He came and stood among the people with excitement apparent on his face. I said, "O Allah's Apostle! What is wrong?" He said, "What is this pillow?" I said, "I have prepared this pillow for you, so that you may recline on it." He said, "Don't you know that angels do not enter a house wherein there are pictures; and whoever makes a picture will be punished on the Day of Resurrection and will be asked to give life to (what he has created)?" -Bukhari 4:47, Narrated 'Aisha

Hadith – “When the Prophet became ill, some of his wives talked about a church which they had seen in Ethiopia and it was called Mariya. Um Salma and Um Habiba had been to Ethiopia, and both of them narrated its (the Church's) beauty and the pictures it contained. The Prophet raised his head and said, "Those are the people who, whenever a pious man dies amongst them, make a place of worship at his grave and then they make those pictures in it. Those are the worst creatures in the Sight of Allah." Sahih Bukhari 2.425, Narrated Aisha, r.a.

Hadith - Narrated by Ibn Abbas (R.A): 'When the Prophet (PBUH) saw pictures in the Ka'ba, he did not enter it till he ordered them to be erased. When he saw (the pictures of Abraham - (A.S) and Ishmael - (A.S) carrying the arrows of divination), he said, "May Allah (Ta'ala) curse them (the Quraish)! By Allah, neither Abraham (A.S) nor Ishmael (A.S) practiced divination by arrows." (Bukhari - Book #55, Hadith #571).

The belief is most strongly held by the Sunnis who form the great majority of the world's Muslims, especially the more zealous groups such as the Wahhabis who dominate Saudi Arabia. But Shia group is much more open to the depiction of human beings. This difference fuels the zeal of violent Sunni groups like Islamic State (IS Syria) who have destroyed Shia shrines and images. Despite the ban on the representation, images of Muhammad (PBUH) are not uncommon in Iran. The Iranian Shi'ism seems more broadminded on this point than Sunnite orthodoxy. In Iran, depictions have considerable acceptance to the present day, and may be found in the modern forms of the poster and postcard.

Now a day's every single Islamic scholar/Shaikh in the world takes his picture for the lawful purposes like Passport, ID cards, medical issues, Drivers License, and a host of other things. Their followers are also allowed to take pictures for the lawful purposes.

“WAMA ALAINA ILLAL BALAGH”