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Respected Fellows,
Finally, I have decided to go on hunger strike for the cause of CSS Age Relaxation in front of Parliament House after CSS Exam 2015...
What is your opinion????
How many of you are willing to join me????
Dear Liaqat first of all i salute your courage and dedication for this cause.And i pray that Allah will help us in this matter.. Im joining you with my friends. Please make a plan and schedule for this hunger strike and also mention the place.
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my dear friends . i have been following this thread since the very first post. i am not actually part of your struggle but today i just want to say something . i understand the frustration you all must be going through but all this trouble for something so unpredictable . lets say you guys will succeed in increasing the age limit ,then what ..just look at the past 3 years FPSC annual report to the parliament . CANDIDATES APPEARED IN 2013 EXAM . 11,406 . .. CANDIDATES QUALIFIED. 220 . that,s a 1.93 %. in 2012 OUT OF 10066 CANDIDATES 222 got allocated and that is 2.2 % .most of us ( part of your cause or not ) probably wont even qualify .that,s a fact .i know many who left their jobs ,cities ..delayed their plans for this mere chance ..and guess what ,they couldn't .where does that leave them now .my best wishes are with you but CSS is not exactly the end of the world ( i used to think that it is but now i know batter ) there are other government jobs .FIA , IB , and so on ..whole new world . but you are causing confusion among aspirants. they are in dilemma whether they should wait for any government decision or not . Do not go on hunger strike , that best that can happen is that you guys will be on every news channel and perhaps nothing else . FPSC has made recommendations of Increasing the age limit many times in past few years in its annual reports . there are many other effective ways to serve your country . and in the end i would like to say that please do not get offended by my post because i did not mean to . what i said is bitter but it is the fact and applies on everybody including me .
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This post is related to CSS candidates’ age relaxation and I would like to offer some recommendation based on comparative analysis of age limits in our neighboring countries which are also common wealth sovereign states that how they relax age to let competent people participate in the exam.
When Musharraf regime seized the power through military coup back in 1999, the best strategy for the regime was to control the government institutions and public offices effectively. Therefore, the concept of devolution of power to grass root level was revived and introduced with some changes in the departmental role of civil servants. Police Ordinance and DMG roles’ restructuring methods were made; this was only done to suite the vested interest of then regime. Tightening the age limit was also one of the tools which were applied to block the entry of competent persons through this perilous process of examination. The other ulterior motive was to allow contractual hiring of favorites on the key positions on the pretext of available less experienced and relatively young age for the required positions. As a result the retired servicemen regained the ‘lost paradise’ and clung to the position they had been retired from. It is really commendable that Supreme Court eventually took notice and null and void all contractual hired consequently paving the way for within department promotions.
On May 17, a senate standing committee had oragnized a debate on age relaxation in FPSC offered job (other than competitive exam, proceeding is available on the internet), the initiative was taken by Senator Haji Ghulam Ali. The proposal of age relaxation was unanimously accepted. It is beyond logic that why government is reluctant to take competent people onboard by just removing a restriction imposed by a dictator, even though candidates would secure their seats on competition basis. Why governemnt is not allowing them to take just exam and prove their competency? Age restriction was imposed on about a decade ago, since then education system have undergone a number of changes e.g. now universities are offering FOUR YEARS GRADUATION PROGRAM. To complete this education, one has to study four years, therefore, 28 years of age makes no sense. Secondly, after completion of education a number of candidates join private sector to eke out their living and to support their families. How is it possible for an average middle class to continue the studies without supporting his or her family? In 2008, SPSC has given 10 years of age relaxation to aspirant to appear in exam and prove their competency, as a result number of candidates appeared and only handful of ‘best of the best’ could make it. What’s a problem with CSS exam? However, there is a rumour that goverment would relax age by 5 years and education qualification would be 16 years but not cleared yet.
On 24, June 2010, Establishment division had issued an Office Memorandum (No: 9/2/91-R-5), as ‘Most Immediate’ was mentioned on it, regarding Clarification on general age relaxation of upper limit prescribed in recruitment rule. In this memorandum, the general age relaxation is given for five years to all posts except through CSS. No one could understand the reason or logic behind this decision. Why the whole government seems reluctant to let aspirant compete and take best of the best on board? The point#2 of this office memorandum is read as:
“2- In light of the recommendation of the Senate Standing Committee, the Ministries/Divisions/Departments are advised that hence-forth, the concession of 5 years general relaxation in upper age limit shall be clubbed with the maximum age limit of the post n their advertisments. In case usual upper age limit of posts in various Basic Pay Scales is as in column (2) below, the maximum age limit shall be as in column (4) below:”BPS Age Limit General Age Relaxation Maximum Age Limit
1-15 25 years +5 years 30 years
16 28 years +5 years 33 years
17 30 years +5 years 35 years
18 35 years +5 years 40 years
19 40 years +5 years 45 years
20 45 years +5 years 50 years
21 50 years +5 years 55 years
It is quite ridiculous that, the BPS 17 person of ex-cadre is given 5 years age relaxation and age limit is already set 30 years but for the CSS exam, age is restricted to 28!
On July 1, 2010 Chairman FPSC has presented the annual report to the Honorable President Mr. Asif Ali Zardari and explained the dearth of competent candidates especially from Sindh (rural/urban). In order to retain and attract the smartest people in the civil services the president had ordered to give incentives to the bureaucrats and young civil servants in terms of constructing high rise buildings and increased pay packages. It is indeed a good move forward but the basic question remains unanswered that how would government attract ‘competent’ people for civil services? In 2008, the annual report was presented to the president highlighting some problems in which the prime one was ‘declining education standard’, the real road block for skiming out best of the best; in 2006, approx 82% and 68% were failed in Essay and English Precis Writing respectively. This percentage rose to 92% in English Precis Writing, quite pathetic. On the basis of such drastic and declining education standards, the recruitment system was gravely demanding improvement. Owing to this need, consultants were hired through word bank as stated in annual report 2008 which is as follows:
c) Improvement in CSS Recruitment System.
Consultants hired through World Bank have completed their study
on CSS recruitment system and after thorough analysis, FPSC’s
recommendations for improvements have been forwarded to the
Government. Modifications and changes in our present system are
essential in order to bring CSS recruitment system in line with modern
day requirements and practices.
Consultants’ fee was payed off from tax payers’ money yet we are unable to implement the changes suggested by them. We are so much radical and conservatives that we seem always in love with our old archaic practices. Why can’t we adapt to global changing patterns? I think that is why we are backwarded, war torn and extremism ridden society although we are a nuclear state. Simply, we don’t want to get change, we don’t want to mend our ways and don’t want to learn from the history.
India and Bangladesh have very flexible and relaxing age criteria for the prospective candidates of Civil services having graduation as academic qualification. India, Pakistan and Bangladesh have the same system of government as inherited from the British Raj. But how the others evolved their system to compete the modern challenges of globalization and how naïve are we to complicate the system to suite a regime’s vested interest. India and Bangladesh has age limit of between 21 to 30 but they facilitate to have maximum participation for it is the democratic right of every ‘capable and competent’ person to serve his or her country.

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my dear friends . i have been following this thread since the very first post. i am not actually part of your struggle but today i just want to say something . i understand the frustration you all must be going through but all this trouble for something so unpredictable . lets say you guys will succeed in increasing the age limit ,then what ..just look at the past 3 years FPSC annual report to the parliament . CANDIDATES APPEARED IN 2013 EXAM . 11,406 . .. CANDIDATES QUALIFIED. 220 . that,s a 1.93 %. in 2012 OUT OF 10066 CANDIDATES 222 got allocated and that is 2.2 % .most of us ( part of your cause or not ) probably wont even qualify .that,s a fact .i know many who left their jobs ,cities ..delayed their plans for this mere chance ..and guess what ,they couldn't .where does that leave them now .my best wishes are with you but CSS is not exactly the end of the world ( i used to think that it is but now i know batter ) there are other government jobs .FIA , IB , and so on ..whole new world . but you are causing confusion among aspirants. they are in dilemma whether they should wait for any government decision or not . Do not go on hunger strike , that best that can happen is that you guys will be on every news channel and perhaps nothing else . FPSC has made recommendations of Increasing the age limit many times in past few years in its annual reports . there are many other effective ways to serve your country . and in the end i would like to say that please do not get offended by my post because i did not mean to . what i said is bitter but it is the fact and applies on everybody including me .
Respected.....
It is not the matter of our attempt chance gaining or loosing, in fact, this is the matter of our upcoming generations. We wish our juniors may not suffer the pain which we are suffering. A dictator imposed a black ordinance which is exploiting us. It is a detailed discussion & I hope you know better than I as you have gone through this thread. So It is not a matter of one or two aspirants, this is the common youth issue which should be resolved as soon as possible.
Regards

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if someone works for two years for any govt. school can they claim age relaxation ?
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yeah i think you can ... not 100 % sure though

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Respected.....
It is not the matter of our attempt chance gaining or loosing, in fact, this is the matter of our upcoming generations. We wish our juniors may not suffer the pain which we are suffering. A dictator imposed a black ordinance which is exploiting us. It is a detailed discussion & I hope you know better than I as you have gone through this thread. So It is not a matter of one or two aspirants, this is the common youth issue which should be resolved as soon as possible.
Regards
Brother

i am not against you guys , was just trying to make a point .

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As Prime Minister showed his interest in reforming the Civil Services, so this is the time to speak, write and protest for the cause of increasing the age limit. It is requested to all members of the forum please write to newspapers, journalists and politicians about the case.
If we are succeeded to meet to PM or any senior minister, there are maximum chances that we'll get the goal. All of you are requested too write on the issue please
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Respected Fellows,
Finally, I have decided to go on hunger strike for the cause of CSS Age Relaxation in front of Parliament House after CSS Exam 2015...
What is your opinion????
How many of you are willing to join me????
Dear Liaqat,

You really have determination to go the extra mile for the cause but unfortunately most of us Pakistanis lack conviction. I dont know if it is because of the general attitude of the ruling class of this state to ignore us or just a national trait but we have forgotten how to fight for our basic rights.

I dont think that hunger strike is going to do any good but if you decide to go for strike, please leave a message here with date and time.
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Hi Everyone,
As PM has asked for Civil Services reforms, so it is requested to please write and ask for increasing the age limit.
please share your views on Facebook and twitter. please highlight the issue. This is the time guys.
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Respected Fellows,
ISLAMABAD
Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif on Monday called for reforms in civil bureaucracy while expressing concern over the bureaucracy’s incompetence over service delivery.
“It is a point of concern that various officers even at senior levels are lacking in competence and initiative which is hampering service delivery to the people,” said the premier at a high-level meeting at the PM House attended by key federal ministers.
The meeting discussed the government’s reform agenda, including the set up of a Evaluation, Monitoring and Delivery Cell to keep strict tabs on working of key ministries.
The PM said that the government officials would be evaluated to improve government’s functioning in providing services to the masses, adding that the reforms in the civil bureaucracy would be ensured through international practices.
He also said that along with improving the accountability mechanism for the civil servants, their salary structure would be improved to provide them with better incentives.
He said that the reforms would be oriented towards ensuring welfare of the masses.
The premier has asked for a detailed report be presented to him within four months for bringing about holistic reforms in the civil service structure.
The next meeting in this regard has been called for Thursday.
Finance Minister Ishaq Dar, Minister for Planning and Development Ahsan Iqbal, Anusha Rehman, the premier’s daughter Maryam Nawaz Sharif, PM’s special assistants Khawaja Zaheer, Tariq Fatemi and MNA Danial Aziz attended the meeting.

Dear Fellows,
Prime Minister has nominated Minister for Planning and Development Ahsan Iqbal as the Chairman of that committee.. So, Please write letters to all above members especially The Respected Maryam Nawaz and Ahsan Iqbal also Ministry of Planning and Development on the following address;

1... Ahsan Iqbal Sahib.
House No. 4, street No. 2, Main Banigala Road, Banigala, Islamabad.

2... Respected Maryam Nawaz.
Prime Minister House, Islamabad.

3... Ministry of Planning, Development and Reforms " P " Block Pakistan Secretariat, Islamabad.
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Respected Brother Liaqat,
We will write as much letters as we could. Just share the formate of the letter and some relevant data and argument so that we may include in our letters.
Moreover, everyone is requested to wrte letters to Ahsan Iqbal Sahib ....
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