The real loosers are those who shy away from the facts . My father is a CSP officer of BPS 21 and I myself is aspiring CSS so that shold give u the idea that I m not an enemy of Civil Services but of the devils which are beyond any doubt present in the system. But that doesnt mean that I should relentlessly desist from the facts and the reality. My posts also got deleted but I have the courage to still look in the eye of all odds and say whatever I think is based on truth.

and what is the fact? "that FPSC has deliberately failed those who were brilliant and has passed the mediocres?" wake up bro. If u pay attention, you will notice that those who failed and are blaming FPSC, are the ones who are shying away from the facts. No dount FPSC can improve on lots of things but one can not doubt their integrity. I have gone through the system not once but twice, and i know it for a fact that FPSC is transparent and that why people fail in CSS. . Regards and best wishes

Distorted facts which feeds your ego alter nothing else and all members of foroum better decide themselves after walking the distance to both civil service and pvt sector without being influenced by your polemics or mine and i wont reply whatever another stingy reply you give. you are here and this is alone is enough to expose your sadistic disturbance of mind.
BYE BYE

and yes, if devil are there , come and counter them by neutralising their evil effects or at least by mitigating it. And these devils are not even fraction of carporate devils. Now whatever you say i am finish with you. you can go eternally with your paradox.
FINAL FARE-WELL

I want everybody to read my previous posts, I never said that mediocres pass CE. Actually ppl who are posting their ugly replies couldnt understand my stance clearly (with due respect of their intellect). Infact there were 194 out of about 4500 who passed the CE last year. I do not say that those 194 were mediocres i just say that those who failed were mediocres.

And I will keep on saying it no matter how much u try to convince me thru ur ostensible arguments.The intellectual ones are just about 5% of those 4500. For those who dont want to see my previous posts, i will quote it here for them:
" the real cause which is responsible for this scenarion is that the ppl who are really able and intelligent are not interested in CSS, because they can better cash their abilities in the private sector "

If they(intelligent ones) would have been much interested then there would have been a greater passing percentage.

And those who think that there is less corruption and malpractices in the system, they themselves are living in their own Utopia or are mentally retarded or unfit to understand the truth.

A quote from Mr. Aqib's post......"Today we see only five or four percent candidates pass the CE, and if they are the real cream of whole of Pakistan then y Pakistan couldnt prosper with the help of these scholars over the years. The answer lies in my previous post. Also the other argument of mine regarding that whether intelligent ones appaer in the CE or not, is ratified by the FPSC's report.".. this was just to prove what u said and that who sould be reffered as mentally retarted.

Ther is no place in the world where all the intelligent people of a nation are interested in one profession only. The intelligent people are alwyas devided aomngst various professions. The reason, why les and less people are passing the CE every year, is that the CE has become difficult over the years. Just have allok at the past papers, the exam was much easier back then. I am sorry but if u believe that all the intelligent people should be interested in comming into government service, then i am afriad it is "you" who is living in UTOPIA. Secondly, nobody said there is less corruption in civil service, I said there is as much corruption in Civil Service as there is in any other segment of the society. And yes i say that Civil service is relatively more selfless than atleast the private sector. If by chance we meet, i will tell you about some events, to which i am a witness" and then I would like you to decide about the integrity of the corporate sector.

Ps. when one is out of reasons, one tends to use abusive language.

i do not blaim anyone for this whole scenerio that the persons are failed even they are talented but one should only strenghten himself instead blaiming on others we should cover all these lacks and mistakes before appearing in examination of CSS.

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Well dear bro......even if these people had been interested ,even then the passing percentage would have remained the same.Bcz only the most intellectual of these would be selected, keeping the percentage same.
People in corporate sector are not all intelects,there is a majority of mediocrs there.
By saying that only 5%(250) of 4500 are intellectuals is not a real picture.Bcz it is a cpmpetitive exam and you dont know how well you hav prepared untill the result is declared.If you look at previous years results you will see that almost one position in top 3 is secured by the person attempting second time.It means he has become an intellectual from a mediocre in a year.Thats not right.
All depends on the inclination and passion of a person willing to join it whether he is a mediocre or an intellect,if he thinks that he must be in a position to bring his abilities for betterment of the people and country.Not selling the abilities for cash.And i think that such a mediocre is far better than an intellect who can better cash his abilities in private sector.

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why do candidates fail in CSS?
CSS is a competitative game in which winning and lossing is compulsory.
it depends on 50% luck, 30% hardwork, 20% source. if someone has these three facts with him/herself then he/she will be success or fail.
everyone has different sense of thinking, capturing, feeling and adjusting to ones environment. some people are very bold, genious and presentminded by birth, some are opposite to them, some gain many things from their past educational experience. afterthat they think themselve to be able to take a part in this game. if they have three options positively they win else they loss the game.

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@ Mr. Abid usmman, Mr. Aqib:- Bro, This is,I think, written in your 'honor'


"Knowledge and Half-Knowledge

Four frogs sat upon a log that lay floating on the edge of a river. Suddenly the log was caught by the current and swept slowly down the stream. The frogs were delighted and absorbed, for never before had they sailed.

At length the first frog spoke, and said, "This is indeed a most marvellous log. It moves as if alive. No such log was ever known before."

Then the second frog spoke, and said, "Nay, my friend, the log is like other logs, and does not move. It is the river that is walking to the sea, and carries us and the log with it."

And the third frog spoke, and said, "It is neither the log nor the river that moves. The moving is in our thinking. For without thought nothing moves."

And the three frogs began to wrangle about what was really moving. The quarrel grew hotter and louder, but they could not agree.

Then they turned to the fourth frog, who up to this time had been listening attentively but holding his peace, and they asked his opinion.

And the fourth frog said, "Each of you is right, and none of you is wrong. The moving is in the log and the water and our thinking also."

And the three frogs became very angry, for none of them was willing to admit that his was not the whole truth, and that the other two were not wholly wrong.

Then a strange thing happened. The three frogs got together and pushed the fourth frog off the log into the river."


Dear bro, dont rely on ur versions of truth, for if u are really lover of truth and knowledge,trust in your ignorance and rely on your doubt then doors of knowledge will reveal upon you. First sign of it is that u give the other person patient listening, and due respect in words and in deeds,most of all in ur v.heart.u will find a change. If that is not so i guess some of us are indeed living in self fulfiling prophesies, but unfortunately such prophesies lose worth when it comes to imposing upon others... i hope this will not ensue another controvsy like it happend with the fourth frog ! Peace!