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@ Second opinion,

I must appreciate for commencement of this thread. It would be proved beneficial for our members. Furthermore i m agreed with the criticism of our veteran members. Above sentence must be followed by Gerund. Following mentioned words often require Gerund.

admit
appreciate
avoid
bother
complete
consider
delay
deny
discuss
enjoy
finish
keep
mention
miss
postpone
practice
quit
recall
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@yasir
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you people are right *(many people will be used)

@secondopinion
Instead of using double article'the' , we take one of them common at such occasion.So, the(sale of product) is used instead of 'the sale of the product'.It is my simple totka.I don't know its technical implications yet it is always so.

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@YASIR28

1. You said that "IRRESPONSIBLE" should be "FAULTY", "IMMATURE". It is the matter of individual choice that what kind of vocabulary one uses and that reflects the particular style of the writer. According to Webster dictionary, the meaning of "IRRESPONSIBLE" is "NOT CARING or INCAPABLE OF RESPONSIBILITY". So, here in the passage it means that "careless behavior" and I think that "behavior" is better to say "careless or irresponsible" rather than faulty. Therefore, I think it is correct to say "IRRESPONSIBLE BEHAVIOR". Is anyone agreed now?
2. As you have pointed out "WORLD'S;" that is not in the original passage. The following statement is in the passage: "It has become a norm of today's world; business firms are specially training their employees to make themselves up effectively in order to impress the customers." As I know one of the ways of using semi-colon is "to join the two independent sentences in order to make the statement long." That's what I have done there. (If you still disagree please justify it why shouldn't I use semi-colon).
3. In your 3rd objection, I am 101% agreed with you that it shouldn't be "discloses over."
4. In your 4th objection you are right to say that I should use Active voice like this "purchasers would only judge the satisfactory response of the product that they had previously."
5. And last but not least, I am honestly very thankful and in debt to your kind suggestions, especially pointing out the places where I need to work.

@ SURESHLASI

• Sir thanks for your kind reply. I would like to justify the use of "bother to" with verb word instead of "participle" from authentic references. I have searched www.dawn.com and I have got about 977 results in which from the editors to the famous writers like AYAZ AMIR, IRFAN HUSSAIN, COWASJEE etc. have explicitly used "bother to" with verb word. Check yourself; COWASJEE http://www.dawn.com/weekly/cowas/20030112.htm, AYAZ AMIR http://www.dawn.com/weekly/ayaz/20020823.htm, DAWN EDITORIAL http://www.dawn.com/2005/04/02/ed.htm.

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First of all thanks a lot for your guidance and suggestions.
You have said "However, contrary to....." is incorrect but it would be justified if you look up the same reference material www.dawn.com. (http://ideas.repec.org/a/taf/jecmet/...2p221-44.html).

IN THE END PLEASE ALSO CORRECT THE NEW PASSAGE THAT I HAVE POSTED AND ALSO DO CONTRIBUTE OF YOUR OWN ONES.

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AND NOW LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IMPROVISED VERSION OF THE PASSAGE (FURTHUR SUGGESSIONS WOULD BE HIGHLY REGARDED)


Charms strike the sight but merit wins the soul


Many people think from their eyes and do not bother to use their gray matter. This is very common observation that a well-dressed person is highly regarded by masses as compare to a modestly wearing person. The reason merely is the charm of sight and the impression of status that paralyzes the ability of judgment. With this irresponsible behavior, injustice is done with the meritorious ones. It has become a norm of today's world; business firms are specially training their employees to make themselves up effectively in order to impress the customers. Such measures greatly improve the sale of product. Leaving aside some reputed organizations, some enterprises are deceiving people in disguise. The truth, later on, dawns upon the purchaser that the product is not up to the mark. However, contrary to this phenomenon, a well-recognized and quality product does not need such flattering tricks. The quality and merit of the product speaks volumes of its utility for the customers. Whether the salesperson is sitting on the footpath or the product is enveloped in an ordinary pack, the pervious satisfaction of the customer would not bother to see the charm; purchasers would only judge the satisfactory response of the product that they had previously. Therefore, new products which are defective in their merits but attractive in their packaging would never be able to win the soul of the customers upon the product having some merit in its quality. Hence, charms strike the sight but merit wins the soul.

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@555
"However, contrary to...." links are here. Above posted one is incorrect. I am really sorry.
http://www.dawn.com/weekly/encounter...encounter2.htm
http://www.dawn.com/2007/03/13/letted.htm

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WHERE IGNORANCE IS BLISS, IT IS FOLLY TO BE WISE

It is human nature that it craves for happiness, freedom and relaxation. There is no doubt that humans are sent in this world to bear the sufferings of the mistake carried out by their ancestors in paradise; Adam and Eve's blunder against Allah's command. So in this world, the mankind is for living a life full of worries, which start from the birth with a cry for food and end at the last breath with a fear of death. Thus, the reason to be in this world is to bear anxieties, frustrations and fears. Now the question is if there is no way out of tensions then how to live in the world? The answer would be clear by a simple logic that a child is unaware of the threat of weapons of mass destruction or an inevitable death. The baby lives in a careless and fearless world, which is full of joy and liveliness. This world of neglect is the real cause of an everlasting happiness of the kid. Therefore, it is the ignorance which safe the children from high blood pressure, heart attack, depression and so on. To neglect certain realities that have nothing to do with our daily life is necessary. Such matters which have no immediate bearings upon our daily routine should be ignored. Pondering over such problems would be out of our scope. There are thousands of moments of joys are lying in front of us; the need is to realize them and accept the reality that where ignorance is bliss, it is folly to be wise.
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I have found some a mistake of mine in "WHERE IGNORANCE IS BLISS, IT IS FOLLY TO BE WISE", it is:
"Therefore, it is the ignorance which safe the children from high blood pressure......" IT SHOULD BE "SAVES" because "SAFE" is an adjective and noun and here it requires a verb.

THERE IS LACK OF PARTICIPATIONS FROM THE MEMBERS OF FORUM......PLEASE GIVE KIND CONSIDERATION FOR PASSAGE WRITING PRACTICE AND CONTRIBUTE THEIR OWN COMPREHENSION NOTES.

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Here Is My Another Honest Effort "a Pen Becomes A Clarion" From 2006 Paper, Which Is In Dire Need Of Your Valuable Knowledge For Correction.

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A PEN BECOMES A CLARION

"Read: And thy lord is the Most Bounteous; Who teacheth by the pen (96:3-4)." Allah has given humankind the most precious and powerful gift Pen. It is the pen through which one could spread the pearls of knowledge and wisdom into the barren land of obliviousness. A murderer cannot be executed without its authority or an evidence for justice cannot be provided without its help. The cog of bureaucracy would jam and the voice of democracy would mute without its inkling. To challenge the tyranny and oppression of the despots and to put to dust the hubris of the emperors are its pluck. Destiny and misery of people could be change only through revolutions, which are not possible without its courage. All the wise and learned of this world are nothing without its company and for them it is the matter of life and death; they would repudiate the luxuries and treasures of life but not the friendship of the pen. Were it not be with the humanity then there would be no difference between an animal and a human being – the vicegerent of Allah. Barbarism and rule of jungle would be the utmost law and the weak would be freely exploited by the powerful. Humanity would know nothing about science and technology, ultimately the existence of life would be in ghettos. Therefore, it is pen that differentiates the humanity from the beasts and it is only the pen from which sprouts the streams of wisdom, justice, honor, love, respect, knowledge, prosperity. And last but not the least is the voice of people which is the soul of democracy. Thus it is rightly said that "a pen becomes a clarion."

Please check the passage for errors with justification and reasons. And I am really disappointed that no one has participated his or her own passage uptil now
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@secondopinion

Articles from Newspapers are never taken as standard in the English papers.
I know when i will write something, i ,too, will commit similar mistakes.It is easy to find out others mistakes and difficult to asses ones own.Soon, i will come up with my own work and this thread will be very beneficial.

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