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My dear friends, I have optend this thread to discuss about our screening test. Please comment whether this should be held or not? What do you thing, will it work if it is annouced and don't you thing that it is a bad to those who are related purely "arts" related subjects from there matric till masters. According to the criteria of Art oriented subjects, from metric to masters, there is no any subject related to the Mathematics, then why they are going to announce screening test. After Bhagwan Das, FPSC's performance is not up to the mark at every level. Facts and figures are the evidence, we know about the scandal of Faislabad, Karachi and many other things.

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The decision to conduct screening test is a wise one because it really will screen out the serious candidates and will expedite the process of result.
However the curriculum of the screening test is debatable, especially the math portion is annoying to most aspirants. Close look at the international tests would reveal that math of the candidates is tested in almost every career so there must be some reason behind this decision.
Overall i endorse this decision!
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My dear friends, I have optend this thread to discuss about our screening test. Please comment whether this should be held or not? What do you thing, will it work if it is annouced and don't you thing that it is a bad to those who are related purely "arts" related subjects from there matric till masters. According to the criteria of Art oriented subjects, from metric to masters, there is no any subject related to the Mathematics, then why they are going to announce screening test. After Bhagwan Das, FPSC's performance is not up to the mark at every level. Facts and figures are the evidence, we know about the scandal of Faislabad, Karachi and many other things.

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In short, its a good decision
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My dear friends, I have optend this thread to discuss about our screening test. Please comment whether this should be held or not? What do you thing, will it work if it is annouced and don't you thing that it is a bad to those who are related purely "arts" related subjects from there matric till masters. According to the criteria of Art oriented subjects, from metric to masters, there is no any subject related to the Mathematics, then why they are going to announce screening test. After Bhagwan Das, FPSC's performance is not up to the mark at every level. Facts and figures are the evidence, we know about the scandal of Faislabad, Karachi and many other things.

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vow, bravo! Don't you think it is an abortive attempt to discuss such things on your part. Please don't waste your potential in initiating such useless thread. If it is announced, get prepared and vice versa.
Moreover, you have studied Mathematics in 6th,7th or 8th grade. Even if you had skipped it , one or two days practice from GRE/GAT book will suffice.
Instead of reforming FPSC, please improve your English. God forbid , with such poor written skills , you have remote chances to pass the exam.
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vow, bravo! Don't you think it is an abortive attempt to discuss such things on your part. Please don't waste your potential in initiating such useless thread. If it is announced, get prepared and vice versa.
Moreover, you have studied Mathematics in 6th,7th or 8th grade. Even if you had skipped it , one or two days practice from GRE/GAT book will suffice.
Instead of reforming FPSC, please improve your English. God forbid , with such poor written skills , you have remote chances to pass the exam.
brother please encourage. and if you want to criticize them to it in a bit softer tone.

as far as math is concerned, these days you cannot get a PhD in any discipline unless you have some basic knowledge of stat and calculus. screening test will have only algebra, ratio and proportion etc.

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vow, bravo! Don't you think it is an abortive attempt to discuss such things on your part. Please don't waste your potential in initiating such useless thread. If it is announced, get prepared and vice versa.
Moreover, you have studied Mathematics in 6th,7th or 8th grade. Even if you had skipped it , one or two days practice from GRE/GAT book will suffice.
Instead of reforming FPSC, please improve your English. God forbid , with such poor written skills , you have remote chances to pass the exam.
Dear I am talking about the screening test that is going to be one of the most important parts of our exam. Hence, I know my English, it is too bad. Thanks for your suggestion. As far as the performance of fpsc is concerned, please have a look at the faislabad scandal, karachi copy missing scandals and many such scandals which posse that FPSC's performance is not up to the mark. Moreover, you said about the elementary maths, yes it will might be included in screening test. But the main point is that, in CE13, many seats are vacant, if they announce screening test, then the failure ratio will also increase. Thus, the point is that, screening should be canceled and every candidate should be given chance to take his/her due three attempts without any screening test. Last but not the least, your language is very abusing, your words sound not good. Although your English Language is good but if your way of expression is like that then you will be failed in Essay paper 100%. Mark my words, it is my experience. Hopefully you won't mind. It is my opinion and brotherly suggestion that be mature.. You are preparating for CSS not for chaprasi job. Thanks..
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Dear I am talking about the screening test that is going to be one of the most important parts of our exam. Hence, I know my English, it is too bad. Thanks for your suggestion. As far as the performance of fpsc is concerned, please have a look at the faislabad scandal, karachi copy missing scandals and many such scandals which posse that FPSC's performance is not up to the mark. Moreover, you said about the elementary maths, yes it will might be included in screening test. But the main point is that, in CE13, many seats are vacant, if they announce screening test, then the failure ratio will also increase. Thus, the point is that, screening should be canceled and every candidate should be given chance to take his/her due three attempts without any screening test. Last but not the least, your language is very abusing, your words sound not good. Although your English Language is good but if your way of expression is like that then you will be failed in Essay paper 100%. Mark my words, it is my experience. Hopefully you won't mind. It is my opinion and brotherly suggestion that be mature.. You are preparating for CSS not for chaprasi job. Thanks..

Bro many vacant seat left in CE13 can't justify the logic of not taking the screening test. It will be simple and easy test especially for those who have prepared for CSS exams. Basic skills will be tested . I don't see anyone failing it if he or she has prepared for CSS exams.
normally 11,12K people sit in exams. I guess at least 2,3K will be failed by screening test hence leaving fewer number of people for final papers . Which will help FPSC by reducing their workload.

Think , it takes 2 years to start CTP of passed candidates.It is huge amount of time which can be eventually reduced to 12, or 14 months .
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Bro many vacant seat left in CE13 can't justify the logic of not taking the screening test. It will be simple and easy test especially for those who have prepared for CSS exams. Basic skills will be tested . I don't see anyone failing it if he or she has prepared for CSS exams.
normally 11,12K people sit in exams. I guess at least 2,3K will be failed by screening test hence leaving fewer number of people for final papers . Which will help FPSC by reducing their workload.

Think , it takes 2 years to start CTP of passed candidates.It is huge amount of time which can be eventually reduced to 12, or 14 months .
It will be my third attempt. I will somehow manage to get through in screening inshallah. If screening test is held, only three candidates will be given opportunity to sit in the written exam on one seat. Same is the case with AD Ib's screening test and such other jobs in FPSC. As a matter of fact, the creative candidates will might face the problem to pass the screening test. Because, I have seen most of the candidates are not good at MCQs but extraordinary at descriptive tests. To fuel the fire, math is also included and majority of the candidates will hardly manage to perform well in it. Above all, screening test is against the soul of bureaucracy, because FPSC wants crammers not creatives. Thanks.
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It will be my third attempt. I will somehow manage to get through in screening inshallah. If screening test is held, only three candidates will be given opportunity to sit in the written exam on one seat. Same is the case with AD Ib's screening test and such other jobs in FPSC. As a matter of fact, the creative candidates will might face the problem to pass the screening test. Because, I have seen most of the candidates are not good at MCQs but extraordinary at descriptive tests. To fuel the fire, math is also included and majority of the candidates will hardly manage to perform well in it. Above all, screening test is against the soul of bureaucracy, because FPSC wants crammers not creatives. Thanks.
Can you please explain three candidates for one seat ? As what I understood was that those who pass screening test will be able to sit in further exams, either the number of passed in 1 thousand or 8 thousand.
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brother please encourage. and if you want to criticize them to it in a bit softer tone.

as far as math is concerned, these days you cannot get a PhD in any discipline unless you have some basic knowledge of stat and calculus. screening test will have only algebra, ratio and proportion etc.

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Dear I am talking about the screening test that is going to be one of the most important parts of our exam. Hence, I know my English, it is too bad. Thanks for your suggestion. As far as the performance of fpsc is concerned, please have a look at the faislabad scandal, karachi copy missing scandals and many such scandals which posse that FPSC's performance is not up to the mark. Moreover, you said about the elementary maths, yes it will might be included in screening test. But the main point is that, in CE13, many seats are vacant, if they announce screening test, then the failure ratio will also increase. Thus, the point is that, screening should be canceled and every candidate should be given chance to take his/her due three attempts without any screening test. Last but not the least, your language is very abusing, your words sound not good. Although your English Language is good but if your way of expression is like that then you will be failed in Essay paper 100%. Mark my words, it is my experience. Hopefully you won't mind. It is my opinion and brotherly suggestion that be mature.. You are preparating for CSS not for chaprasi job. Thanks..
Sorry brother , I did not intend to be harsh. Besides, I will try to soften my stance in subsequent posts..However, I don't consider my language abusive at all.

Secondly, no one denies the fiascoes that have surfaced to show incompetency of FPSC in recent years, unfortunately we can do nothing about it. We have to be strong at our end to get through the exam.

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It will be my third attempt. I will somehow manage to get through in screening inshallah. If screening test is held, only three candidates will be given opportunity to sit in the written exam on one seat. Same is the case with AD Ib's screening test and such other jobs in FPSC. As a matter of fact, the creative candidates will might face the problem to pass the screening test. Because, I have seen most of the candidates are not good at MCQs but extraordinary at descriptive tests. To fuel the fire, math is also included and majority of the candidates will hardly manage to perform well in it. Above all, screening test is against the soul of bureaucracy, because FPSC wants crammers not creatives. Thanks.

You have already lost your two precious attempts due to stroke of luck brother. This time, Screening test is bound to be your nemesis if you don't change your attitude. We have to adjust ourselves according to circumstances. Attitude of complaining and contemplating is akin to inviting disaster for ourselves.

No offence please.
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