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No need of sit in those who want to send a petition to senate should contact me either on my fb id given in my profile or contact me at **********
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I received your email. I think your petition needs some alterations. I gonna reply your email and today Inshallah will also upload the specimen of the petition
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How to submit a Petition?
The petitioner initiates the Public Petition processby using the online Public PetitionDropboxon the official website of Senate of Pakistan, or sends it to the Public Petitions Table, Senate Secretariat, by post. Petitions should contain the following information:- Personal details of the petitioner: Complete name and CNIC number of the petitioner Postal address Mobile and landline phone number Text of the Petition: The text must clearly and concisely state the grievance and the relief sought by the petitioner Additional Information: Provide additional information relevant to the Petitionseparately as annex and the reasons why the petitioner considers the action requested to be necessary. Reading Guidelines for Submitting a Petition: : Indicate that the petitioner has read the guidelines for submitting a Petition. Disclaimer: : That the matter is not pending before any court or other authority performing judicial or quasi-judicial functions. If the matter is subjudice, however, provide the relevant case number and court name i.e. Supreme Court, High Court of (Province), Session Court (name) etc. Admissibility of a Public Petition:- The Public Petitions Table will assess all petitions against the following criteria of admissibility, namely:- It shall be addressed to the Chairman, Senate of Pakistan. It shall contain clear proposal, suggestion related to: business before the House, business before a Senate Committee, and/or issue of public importance.(It should be a matter which pertains to, is related or is the concern of the Federal Governmentor anybody or person acting through or under it). It shall, in no way, relate to a matter which is the concern of a provincial or local government. It shall not be a personal matter or complaint against individual(s). It shall not contain offensive, intemperate, inflammatory, sarcastic or provocative language. It shall not contain false or defamatory statements. It shall not relate to a matter which falls within the cognizance of a court of law or tribunal, and it shall not directly relate to a matter pending before any court or other authority performing judicial or a quasi-judicial functions. It shall not be on a matter which, has already been examined or is a repetition of a petition considered or under consideration of either the House or a Committee. If so, the petitioner will be informed about action/disposal of the already pending matter. Acknowledgement of Petition: As soon as, the Petition is submitted online, an automated acknowledgement email will be sent to the petitioner containing the Petition ID number, as per template at Appendix-B. The email will also inform the petitioner that he/she can check the status of the Petition by logging back to the Senate website and using the combination of their CNIC number and Petition ID number. In case a Petition is received by mail, Public Petitions Table (PPT) will scan the Petition, and annexure, if any, assign a Petition ID and repeat the same acknowledgement mechanism if an email address is provided with the Petition. If no email address is provided, petitioner will be informed by phone or by post, as the case may be. Processing of the Petitions: Streamlining ThePublic Petitions Table shall retrieve the Public Petitions from the website and after verifying petitioner’s credentials from NADRA database and checking the initial filters mentioned in the section, ‘How to submit a Petition,’shall print the same. Public Petitions Table will examine the petition under the criteria of admissibility and then classify into the following four heads for further submission to the Chairman Senate:- Petitions relating to the business pending before the House, or proposed to be included in the House business. Petitions relating to the business pending before a Senate Standing Committee or to be referred to a Committee. Petitions relating to the matters of general public importance relating to the Federal Government. Inadmissible Chairman’s Approval Petitions filtered and classified as above, will then be put up – twicea week i.e. on Monday and Thursday of every week – forthe approval/disapproval and orders of the Chairman Senate in one consolidated summary note. Updated Status of Petitions: Public Petitions Tablewill regularly update the status of petitions online as per Appendix-C.As soon as a status update is made, the petitioner will get an automated email as per Appendix-D. In case a Petition is found inadmissible, the petitioner will be informed through an automated email as per template at Appendix-E. In case a Petition is discussed in the House with the approval of Chairman Senate, the petitioner will be informed through an email as per template at Appendix-Falong with copy of/reference to House Debate that contains discussion on the Petition. Follow-up of Petitions Referred to Committees Once a Petition is referred to a Committee, the Secretary Committee shall: immediately bring it to the notice of the Chairperson, Committee, send it to the Ministry concerned for comments within a period of seven working days, after the receipt of ministerial response, either place it on the agenda of next Committee meeting with approval of the Chairperson or, if there is no need for the matter to be further processed, send it back to Public Petitions Table, if required, follow-up the matter with concerned ministry/division. submit a fortnightly report as per Appendix-G, detailing actions taken on all petitions referred to the subject Committee that were not disposed of until submission of last fortnightly report, and forward request for extension of disposal period beyond the stipulated 30 days in cases where such an extension is needed. Public Petitions Table shall: on receipt of requests for extension of time, put up the case for Chairman’s orders and subsequently inform the Secretary Committee of the orders made. submit a fortnightly summary report to the Chairman containing details of petitions pending with Senate Committees, as per Appendix-H. Petitions Taken up in the House Public Petitions Table shall, after obtaining orders of the Chairman, forward the petitions relating to the House Business or which requires taking cognizance by the House to the Legislation Branch, which shall set such petitions in the Orders of the Day for their taking up in the House. The Chairman, after briefly referring to the contents of the petition on its turn in the Orders of the Day, may open the Floor for discussion. On conclusion of the discussion, the Chairman may ask the concerned Minister to respond. If the House is satisfied by the statement made by the Minister concerned, the Petition will stand disposed of.If, however, the House is not satisfied by the statement made by the Minister, the Chairman may refer the Petition to a particular Ministry/Division, upon which Legislation Branch shall follow up the implementation status after the expiry of stipulated time fixed by the House.After receipt of response from the Ministry/Division, Legislation Branch shall place the same before the House and also convey the same to the Public Petitions Table who shall convey the same to the petitioner. Record of Petitions Record of all petitions received and actions taken thereon will be available in the online database maintained by the Computer Programmer. Detailed information about any Petition as well as summary information about all petitions will be updated and available for access online.Public Petitions Table will maintain all files and logs of the petitions in hard form. Master Table of Petitions Public Petitions Table shall prepare and maintain a daily master table of petitions detailing numbers of total petitions received to that day and breakup of number of petitions by each status category. Placement of Report before the House regarding Public Petitions A report will be placed before the House in every session, containing details of petitions received after placement of such report in the previous session, actions taken thereon, breakup of petitions by status, petitions pending with Senate Committees, and other information as may be considered appropriate from time to time. Placement of Report before the House regarding Public Petitions Inadmissible Petition under the guidelines will stand rejected. The Chairman Senate may reject any Petition The petitioner may withdraw the Petition at anytime before its admissibility. |
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jamalnasir (Friday, October 14, 2016) |
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bro this is the address ( for sending petitions by post)
To, Deputy Secretary Public Petitions Table Senate Secretariat Islamabad write whatever you want but the content should radiate maturity ... suggestions should be written in the end with a separate heading and these should be concise and to the point ... one suggestion that everyone should mention is the increase in the number of attempts .. Indian civil services allows 6 attempts .. same goes for Bangladesh civil services ... lets save brilliant students from ruthless strokes of bad luck ...let stop brain drain ... by now at least 3 candidates have sent petitions by post ... i hv heard that 100 petitions on a similar subject are required by senate to form a committee that ponders on the subject seriously ... i think we can send much more petitions than 100 given the enormity of dissatisfaction caused by the result |
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jamalnasir (Friday, October 14, 2016) |
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@Zaid Ahmad, I will read your posts today Inshallah after being free.
Specimen of the application. It's application so there will be minor changes in petition. Please comment that is it appropriate or any changes should be brought in it? The president of Islamic Republic of Pakistan CC: 1. Mr. Raza Rabbani, Chairman Senate. 2. Mr. Muhammad Nawaz Sharif, Prime Minister of Islamic Republic of Pakistan. 3. Deputy Secretary, Public Petition Table, Senate Secretariat, Islamabad. Subject: Application to bring reforms in Central Superior Services of Pakistan. Respected sir, I have to state that your government has brought admirable reforms in the syllabus of prestigious CSS exams. But still there is a dire need to bring reforms in the whole Competitive Examination's procedure. At the time of Rana Bhagwandas the passing ratio of candidates in written part of competitive examination was 8 to 9 percent, but in CE 2016 the passing ratio was only 2 percent. It does not mean that the abilities of highly qualified youth of Pakistan has been reduced, but FPSC decides the passing ratio before examination to reduce burden for the interview panel. As written part is the screening step for interview, so deliberately candidates should not be failed. In CE 2016 many talented doctors, engineers, lawyers, psychologists, and M.Phil scholars flunked in written part, if they would be passed, then they would serve the motherland in a better way. On the other hand, there is no any procedure of rechecking of papers. There is only one option which is recounting, in which answer sheets are never shown to the candidate while referring it as a secret document. Sir, there should be proper rechecking while showing the answer sheet to the candidate, not recounting. Respected sir, my request to you is that please bring reforms in the whole CSS procedure. Instead of targeting one or two papers to fail the candidates, all those who performed well in the examination should be passed in written part. Those who could not allocate in twelve prestigious groups of Central Superior Services, should be adjusted in other 17 scale jobs. While doing so, there would be no need to advertise and canduct examinations for other 17 scale jobs. Mostly one paper MCQs tests are conducted for 17 scale jobs, other than CSS, in which the true abilities could not be judged properly. If those candidates will be allocated in 17 scale jobs who will pass 12 papers of 100 marks each, but would not be allocated in Superior Services, then the most competent youth will serve the country. As in Bangladesh there are cadre services and Non-cadre services. Who could not be allocated in cadre services are adjusted to 1st class Non-cadre posts. Respectfully Sheweth, Jamal Abdul Nasir
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zaid ahmed (Friday, October 14, 2016) |
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Let the Sanity prevail
Hello everyone,
I have been a silent spectator here for quite some time, I am a PAS officer from 41st Common. I have read all these posts and I felt urge to share my candid thoughts with you guys. I'm sorry in anticipation of an adverse response, however, I will call a spade a spade and intention is just to inculcate some sense in the aspirants. The person who has initiated the thread, dear Jamal, I understand the pain and agony you are going through. However, I would urge you sit back with a chill pill and do little self stock taking. I have been through your essay and posts, I have seen your English language expression, the way you articulate your thoughts and express your ideas, I'm sorry to say but your expression is seriously flawed. Your text is replete with syntactical and structural flaws. Your expression reflects indianism which is a commonplace euphemism used for subcontinent people who do not express their thoughts in functional English rather just literally translate from Urdu to English, for example; you use future auxiliary twice for a conditional sentence which is wrong, we use one present auxiliary and one future. There are many mistakes that you make in reflecting your actual thought process. You also have to work on your ideas, and more importantly how you organize them in an effective manner. Your essay is very disconnected with banal expression and disconnected thoughts. Getting an essay published in JWT is not a big deal, CSS is a different ball game. I just want you to focus on these gaps, once you fill them, you will achieve invincible success. About your accusations on FPSC, I give you my word that no deserving person is deliberately failed. I have many people who appeared with good preparation and they passed, my own sister who is already a CSP serving in OMG has passed. I urge you to understand that this is not a degree awarding exam where the examiner must pass you if you have performed above average, rather here you have to make sure that you don't let the examiner fail you. Try to understand that this is a competitive exam for recruiting best of the best, they cannot condone such blunders which do not commensurate with the standards of Central Superior Services, you want them to grade you just on the basis of self proclaimed performance, no boy, they would penalize you for your mistakes. So people, rather asking the FPSC to behave like B.I.S.E Lahore, you must acquire that prowess that you can prove yourself equal to the task. Best of luck and apologies to all. |
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Thanks Zaid Ahmed for providing details. I tried to submit petition at this address http://publicpetition.senate.gov.pk/index.php but after filling up the form when I click on submit button, then instead of opening next page of the website it gives error that page cannot be opened. I checked from Chrome and Firefox. I think now only one option is left which is to send petition by post.
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zaid ahmed (Friday, October 14, 2016) |
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Ok my point is you all are angry the FPSC deals with candidates so i would recommend you all
Find the way which should be a peaceful one like through media for FPSC To send the detail mark sheet of candidates at their homes with the causes of failure in each subject End qouta system and conducted separately the css exam so that talented candidates in punjab too can get allocation Increase pass percentage Increase seats Announce result quickly |
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zaid ahmed (Friday, October 14, 2016) |
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Bhai jaan zra pora sentence bhi pr lein.i m also saying to conduct exam separately so that all can get allocations separately in each provinces,in that cases there would be Increase in number of seats Pass percentage and Allocations on equal levels |
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