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i have my interview in the following week.I am preparing from different sources.but i am finding myself more troubled about becoming intolerant and i daresay that i will say the truth about our government.I sometime become incensed at what the politicians are upto.i fear i will pounce on the panel and start bashing the government about its weak-kneed policy.i am increasingly becoming much concerned about what to say and what to restrain.kindly mollify my apprehensions and provide me with the most appropriate answers to the following questions.

Should we criticise the government
Should we become a fan of zardari
what to say about eradictaing thana culture?
NRO brought back politics to pakistan.comment
Pakistan is a Banana republic?
Pakistan will have another military coup?

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Should we criticise the government
yes definitely because all the policies of the government shows their incompetancy
where it be RPP's or shutting down the markets at 8 or camaigning for jamshaid dati.

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Should we become a fan of zardari
yes because he is a lucky person and made a lot of money.



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what to say about eradictaing thana culture?
posting high ranking officers at the police stations like DIG or IG


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Pakistan is a Banana republic
yes while seeing the present situation of pakistan.



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Pakistan will have another military coup?
yes the stakes are qiute high. at this point you can also give one suggestion that there should be a political party be made comprising of the senior serving army officers and the leader of the party be jamshaid kayani and it should be allowed contest in the elections,


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yes definitely because all the policies of the government shows their incompetancy
where it be RPP's or shutting down the markets at 8 or camaigning for jamshaid dati
Sir you mean to say that i should tell them in plain words that the government is good for nothing.it isn't doing anything and the strings of pakisatan are being managed from some other place.Should i say to baghwanda,"hey you! immediately tender your resignation.you cant declare the result of an exam in a year(written + merit).Americans have devised smart tests like gmat,gre,toefl.and you are sitting at the debris of an indolent institution".

Should i say that Pakistan should be sold to contractors for 30 years.Should i say that we should ban the use of calender.and the president and pm should declare that we are taking pakistan to STONE AGE.i dare say this is the truth.

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yes because he is a lucky person and made a lot of money.
But NRO is a draconian law.this indigent nation has been deprived of 1000Billion Rupees.And i should say that there is no coruuption.zardari ,PPP,Nawaz Sharif are clean?
Why should we always have to hand blanket exempotions?

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Yes this right.posting the IG in every thana and every thana should have its own IG.Absolutely right.

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yes the stakes are qiute high. at this point you can also give one suggestion that there should be a political party be made comprising of the senior serving army officers and the leader of the party be jamshaid kayani and it should be allowed contest in the elections,
I always pray that there should be a coup.no sane and educated person can think that the politicans can represent the educated.Jamshaid dastee represents the illiterate.he will always exploit lot like these.
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the strings of pakisatan are being managed from some other plac
yes most propably america or IMF


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Americans have devised smart tests like gmat,gre,toefl.and you are sitting at the debris of an indolent institution".
if they can give results in minutes then why cant FPSC

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Should i say that Pakistan should be sold to contractors for 30 years
exactly like hong kong to britain


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I always pray that there should be a coup.no sane and educated person can think that the politicans can represent the educated.Jamshaid dastee represents the illiterate.he will always exploit lot like these.
military is the most perminent party of pakistan and all others are temporary.


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dear if u had read carefully the instructions on ur interview call-letter, i don't think u would ve wasted ur precious time over thinking what to say and what to eliminate. i believe one should b positive and even criticism should b positive. during my psycho day 2, in group discussion and interview, i criticised the govt but didn't use any strong words(and mind it we r not "competent" enough to mock or jeer those in the govt).

plz go first and read the instructions properly(u can ask over here if a clause doesn't make any sense to u, but i m hopeful u will be able to understand it as it is written in simple english). ur candidi, bold, and convincing answer is required, no matter its "politically" correct or not.

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Dear members and aspiring CSPs.Salam and well wishes for you.

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Are you going to reply this way? If yes, I will suggest you two to have this kind of conversation on your messenger. This is a CSS Forum and aspirants should be guided properly with serious replies
Dear sister,I am a thoughtful guy who behaves in two ways.one,two say the right thing for all the CSS aspirants .second,to say what i believe is right.
Now i am preparing my case in detail.if anyone can come with solid reasons i am willing to change my opinion.

The words "serious" and "mature" carry a judemental value.You can judge a person to be serious by evaluating the definition of serious you have read and exerienced in your life.

What i wrote is against the government.I am emptying my spleen against it.i have not meant any offence to any CSS-aspirant or CSP.There are many members whose response i would like to know.do help me.Please!

Now i daresay that i will lambast the panel.The reason?her it is.I am not a servant of government and i know govt has a culture.Every institution and job has a culture.I am not an employee of the govt.When i am not part of it,why should i conform to what the interviewers want to hear?
My answers will be bold,daring and audacious.Why should i be submissive in my tone?i know there are hundred of boys who are feigning conformity to this culture.They are not critising the government at all.Why is this so?because of the same old junk formula.say what they want to hear.
Now tell me if Pakistan's government lacks so many things what should be a positive criticism and what should be a negative criticism?if jamshed dasti is re-elected shouldn't i criticise this pit of greed called the PPP?i am a candid and keen observer.i have no skeletons in my cupboard.it's my right to tell the other members through my exceptionable(if objectionable then do let me know) behaviour that i am far removed from the madding conforming ground.Ever heard of the Lucifer Effect.Yes the CSS-aspirants immdiately experience it when they start CSS prepration.Ever wondered that candidates become more spirited and are never wanting in enthusiasm?This is because of CSS.The only career that inculcates enthusiasm,devotion and the courage to know.
I believe that there is honest and dishonest criticism.I never dare to spout cliches or esoteric arguments.But i know how to give smart answers.I have worked thoroughly on the tone,style and the way baghwandas and the panel ask the question.
I swear on this that i have the capacity and the ability to comment on the questions i will recieve from the panel.

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Yes sir i have certainly read the instructions.i can interpret your tone but i don't see any fruition in reciprocating.I know each and every instruction.I can read and write well english.

Tell me why we are not competent enough to comment on the Government's reckless and insane and outright outlandish ploicies?
The editors of dawn are not doctors,engineers,scientists nor are the reporters.Does this mean that they should stop commenting and adjudging the policies of the government?The editors of dawn write about the high-handedness of police.Should they stop commenting on police knwing that they don't knwo about the culture?
The first day i started my preparation and my elder brother told me that remember that no matter how good you study you will always remain an opinion borrower.i heeded his advice but i daresay i didn't comply and my reading suggests to me that the panelisits are not jack of all.They have their limits and i will show my mettle there.


Yes i am out an out authoritarian.I still say that i know how the government runs.the culture runs the organisations.
Getting good students in CSS will not change the culture.But i will as ever remain-----defiant.

Thank you for reading.Well wishes for all CSS aspirants.

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Sir, I'm not a CSP or a Senior Member, I'm just throwing in my personal thoughts.. I have also thought of these things and have come to the conclusion that it all depends on how badly I want this job: Am I willing to sacrifice Truth and my principles, just for becoming a CSP? I think not.

So I'm going to say what I think to be true (within acceptable limits of decency), regardless of how anyone takes it. I would suggest you do the same, Inshallah everything will work out for the best.
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Dear members and aspiring CSPs.Salam and well wishes for you.

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Dear sister,I am a thoughtful guy who behaves in two ways.one,two say the right thing for all the CSS aspirants .second,to say what i believe is right.
Now i am preparing my case in detail.if anyone can come with solid reasons i am willing to change my opinion.

The words "serious" and "mature" carry a judemental value.You can judge a person to be serious by evaluating the definition of serious you have read and exerienced in your life.

What i wrote is against the government.I am emptying my spleen against it.i have not meant any offence to any CSS-aspirant or CSP.There are many members whose response i would like to know.do help me.Please!

Now i daresay that i will lambast the panel.The reason?her it is.I am not a servant of government and i know govt has a culture.Every institution and job has a culture.I am not an employee of the govt.When i am not part of it,why should i conform to what the interviewers want to hear?
My answers will be bold,daring and audacious.Why should i be submissive in my tone?i know there are hundred of boys who are feigning conformity to this culture.They are not critising the government at all.Why is this so?because of the same old junk formula.say what they want to hear.
Now tell me if Pakistan's government lacks so many things what should be a positive criticism and what should be a negative criticism?if jamshed dasti is re-elected shouldn't i criticise this pit of greed called the PPP?i am a candid and keen observer.i have no skeletons in my cupboard.it's my right to tell the other members through my exceptionable(if objectionable then do let me know) behaviour that i am far removed from the madding conforming ground.Ever heard of the Lucifer Effect.Yes the CSS-aspirants immdiately experience it when they start CSS prepration.Ever wondered that candidates become more spirited and are never wanting in enthusiasm?This is because of CSS.The only career that inculcates enthusiasm,devotion and the courage to know.
I believe that there is honest and dishonest criticism.I never dare to spout cliches or esoteric arguments.But i know how to give smart answers.I have worked thoroughly on the tone,style and the way baghwandas and the panel ask the question.
I swear on this that i have the capacity and the ability to comment on the questions i will recieve from the panel.

@Muqeet Asim

Yes sir i have certainly read the instructions.i can interpret your tone but i don't see any fruition in reciprocating.I know each and every instruction.I can read and write well english.

Tell me why we are not competent enough to comment on the Government's reckless and insane and outright outlandish ploicies?
The editors of dawn are not doctors,engineers,scientists nor are the reporters.Does this mean that they should stop commenting and adjudging the policies of the government?The editors of dawn write about the high-handedness of police.Should they stop commenting on police knwing that they don't knwo about the culture?
The first day i started my preparation and my elder brother told me that remember that no matter how good you study you will always remain an opinion borrower.i heeded his advice but i daresay i didn't comply and my reading suggests to me that the panelisits are not jack of all.They have their limits and i will show my mettle there.


Yes i am out an out authoritarian.I still say that i know how the government runs.the culture runs the organisations.
Getting good students in CSS will not change the culture.But i will as ever remain-----defiant.

Thank you for reading.Well wishes for all CSS aspirants.

Regards,

Sikander
sir i dunno what u inferred from the "tone" of my post(neither do I care), but i would like to draw ur attention to the focal point of my previous post. that is being positive even while criticising. this is my opinion and i won't mind if others disagree. sir by saying we r not competent enough i meant that first we look at ourselves... mere in early or mid twenties, with only 16 years of regular education, with little or no practical knowledge of how govt functions adn solves problems and delivers services, and almost nil experience in problem solving in public domain. admi pehle apne gareeban mein jhanke phir dusre k point of view ko samajhne ki koshish kare, uske ba'd hi koi sakht faisla kare. i believe i ve stated my point in simple terms.

as far as editors etc r concerned, this is their job to criticise but trust me i ve never come across an editorial piece which defies the fundamental norms of decency and makes sweeping statements like welcoming another coup etc.
sir plz re-read ur response to last island, u r committed that u r gonna "lamabst" the panel, so there is no point in wasting our and ur own precious time. i bid u god speed but if u ve placed this post for discussion, i must say what i deem fit: the members of the panel are superior to us in all dimensions.... age, experience, knowledge. whatever dimension of life u take, u will c them at better place than most of us. and trust me they r at that place where me and u aspire to reach. with all this life spent in service of country, they definitely deserve utmost respect. and i will detest the mere thought of it that i would show stubbornness or will b ill-tempered with them(lambasting huh!!!).
there is hell of difference b/w being principled and values-oriented, and being rude and stubborn or defiant. this is my point of view and i ve stated it as plainly as i could, without much thinking as i don't want to waste my time on such unnecessary matters(so if u find any flaws in my post, my apology in advance).
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Salam sir Muqeet Asim.

Read your response.Thank you for your reply.i am very greatful to you.

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Well,read this post of yours.i hope you are conversant with the use of "would have".it means to me in plain english "if you had read the instructions you wouldn't have wasted your time."
I am writing what i inferred from your post.It is your choice whether you want to care or not.yes,you can disagree and we should respect each other's opinion.

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dear if u had read carefully the instructions on ur interview call-letter, i don't think u would ve wasted ur precious time over thinking what to say and what to eliminate
i think sincerely that i have left no stone unturned in my CSS preparation.rest is in the hands of Allah.

kindly tell me what is positive criticism?

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mere in early or mid twenties, with only 16 years of regular education, with little or no practical knowledge of how govt functions adn solves problems and delivers services, and almost nil experience in problem solving in public domain. admi pehle apne gareeban mein jhanke phir dusre k point of view ko samajhne ki koshish kare, uske ba'd hi koi sakht faisla kare. i believe i ve stated my point in simple terms.
Why does the chairman asks questions on global warming,energy crisis or water shortages when he himself is not an expert?
The panel has no practical experience in the technology and medical field.then why does it seeks the opinion of the candidate on increasing exports or controlling inflation?

Yes,the panel asks questions about methods to curb corruption.You and i can answer these questions.what rocket-science exists in the questions that have been asked in interviews?

We should build on our self-esteem.i belong to the most prestigious intitution of this country and let me share another thing with you.When you give viva during professional exams of medicine,your professor treats you such that you answer questions and get awarded.his calibre is high above you.why then he doesn't play with your ignorance?he knows that one day you will soar higher than him and occupy his seat.you may easily get to yale,cornell,tufts,boston,columbia.

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as far as editors etc r concerned, this is their job to criticise but trust me i ve never come across an editorial piece which defies the fundamental norms of decency and makes sweeping statements like welcoming another coup etc.
sir plz re-read ur response to last island, u r committed that u r gonna "lamabst" the panel, so there is no point in wasting our and ur own precious time.
We know that the response of newspaper editorials is always balanced,rational and carefully thought-out.But,yes i say that i am least supportive of democracy.it's a personal opinion.i don't like goons sitting as rulers on the high offices of my country.
About "lambasting" the panel,yes sir,surely i will play on the front foot.i never meant any indignity or profanity.i meant that i will give curt replies.i know that they are sitting there to judge you on your performance in CSS not your practical experience.As i told you that i am not naieve and i know how things get carried in Pakistan.i know the culture of the job.You and i shall be conforming with the government culture.i know there are no morals,no religious values.there are only institutional values.
like the banking system which in all its manifestation is "haram",but due to the societal consensus,it is good institution.The war-wager against Allah is the banking system.By this comment all i mean to say is that you are conforming to the culture of CSS at an early stage.And i am not going to cow-in to the government's culture.
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Yes,you are right brother.i am not rude.but if they ask me Pakistan is failing and it has got itself in the worst form of trouble,should i remain positive that everything is going on well.there are streams of milk,honey,green meadows and lush pastures in our country.i daresay that i will sound insane if i say idealist things.But,my response is that i am here for this job to make all things happen.but,i will honestly speak my mind.

Dear brother no need to apologise.i never mean and disrespect to any member.neither am i on a mission to humble.i am humble and i want to see my friends and companions prosper.i pray that you get your desired group.

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Thank you for your patience.i respect all of you.you have always been very coopertive in allowing me to speak my mind.

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sister thank you for your patience.
Regarding the post of chosing Railways and postal.i am telling youi the truth that the stigma of being in Postal and railways affects CSPs a lot.all i wanted to know was how do candidates feel about these groups.My boss once told me that he was in japan.His japanese colleague was saying something to another person in japanese.my boss said i asked him what the other man was asking.my boss's colleague told him that the other japanese was asking him,"what is your honourable job"
When you and your society honours your job,then you feel satisfied and you work honestly.you are a technician,a sweeper or a scientist.do your job reponsible and earn the honour.

Thanking you in anticipation.

Regards.

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