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Ursula I really appreciate your help. I hope this doesn't become too bothersome for you. Let me know if it does, will keep it minimum
Yup, try to be concise and to the point, instead of creating long cook and bull story, just raise this concern that you believe that Marx theory doesn't work on criminological work as conflict theory has elaborated it precisely
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I already told, its a revolutionary theory, here you can find good stuff, and you can also consult this one as well.
Still you need elaboration, i'll try by my own self.
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I'm afraid, you're mixing different perspectives as well. I.e. radical ideology(marxist criminology) with conflict theory. So try to be relevant as well. Critically analyse the differences among the different theories as well.

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Yeah my mistake, will try to be concise from now onward.

I'll be studying theories related to physical attributes of criminals and all today. Baby steps.
I'll check what I am understanding or rather not understanding about radical criminology when it comes to that. I think I am jumping ahead of myself and mixing too many things. This is what happens when you get excited and read it all in one sitting.
Sorry about that. I'll be careful in the future.

Which book did you read to cover this portion Ursula?
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Well, you know I had just 1/4th of the year to cover the 12 subjects, the only subject that consumed my precious hours was "criminology".I consulted oxford handbook, critical geography(that covers gigantic portion of crimes at state level, like Gen.Pinochet in Elsalvadorl), pdfs and lomborso for physical attributes of criminology.
Alhamdollilah, that covered the theories related to crime.(I just conceptualize and try to remember the theories with differences)
Note: every person has its sense of taste for reading and grabbing the central idea, if I'm not wrong than I already informed that" it doesn't matter, how many books have I studied, but definitely, it does how much i've retained".I.e. try to understand the idea and than develop rational CONCLUSION
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...the only subject that consumed my precious hours was "criminology".I consulted oxford handbook, critical geography(that covers gigantic portion of crimes at state level, like Gen.Pinochet in Elsalvadorl), pdfs and lomborso for physical attributes of criminology.
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Do you have this book in pdf? Can you share?
Which book do want right now? Sorry I didn't comprehend you rightly.
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Which book do want right now? Sorry I didn't comprehend you rightly.
...critical geography(that covers gigantic portion of crimes at state level, like Gen.Pinochet in Elsalvadorl),...

This one.
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I already told, its a revolutionary theory, here you can find good stuff, and you can also consult this one as well.
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Already,mentioned here, it will present you good solution as well.
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Zainy, are you OK!
We didn't meet for couple of days, I hope all things are gonna to be working according to your's expectation.
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Hi,
it's very nice of you to ask. I have been studying theoretical criminology book by vold. I read it again, this time more carefully and it took me a lot of time. Finally it is done. I thought to come here after it is done and I have understood it because I start running around with ideas and mix up stuff and then get embarrassed when I get called out on that. lol so was trying to be a responsible person.
You were right I was mixing up the radical with conflict. I know it might be stupid to revisit same book but now things are making more sense to me. You were also right about Marxism and its relativity with criminology. I was focusing on just him and criminology, later on it panned out and got divided into many strands. (instrumentalists, structuralist, left realism, there is feminist perspective here too that brings patriarchy in focus and juveniles and others because socio-economics plays a huge role in society).
I am trying to figure out why marxism doesn't come under conflict criminology. It talks about power centres too. Can you help me over this?
So far this is the one that is bugging me the most.


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I am trying to figure out why marxism doesn't come under conflict criminology. It talks about power centres too. Can you help me over this?
So far this is the one that is bugging me the most.

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I'm on twitter, but unable to exchange because of ma personal matters, and I hope you won't fuss over the issue, dude!
Conflict perspective basically tilted on the same notion, that otherwise differentiated on the basis of outcome, as radical ideology challenges the bureaucratic and world system of governance as exploitative, conflict don't.
Conflict theory talks about the reformative principles while Marxist is radicalist.I mean system of governance as" dictatorship of working class".
Sorry buddy , this time my wifi connection is getting whimiscal,its my third reply (since first two has been lost foreverly)and I hope it can be uploaded.
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