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Old Friday, September 21, 2007
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well my opinion is that kismat se dua ka koi taaaluk nahi because kismat mein kya likha hy humko malooom nahi (point to be noted) hum dua namaz k baad maangty hy ooor wese bhi maang lety hy ku k hum apne future mein kuch bhi hasil karna chahty ho woh hum dua k through maangty hy,kismat mein jo likha hy wohi hota hy ap apne jagah per theek ho magar aap ye batao loug esa ku kehty hy k mom k pairon mein janat hoti hy apne mom ka khayal rakho,ezat karo,tum ko tumare mom dua dege or tumko dunia bhi mily gi or janat bhi,ku k mom humaein paal poos kar bara karti hy ese liye agar hum mom se acha na chalen gy tu hum kabi be aagy nahi bar sakein gy.ooor mom jab dilse dua karti hy humko woh cheeez mil jati hy jiski humy need hoti hy.ye mene apko ek simple example dya hy k dua mein itni taakat hy k woh apky ki takdeer ko bhi badal sakti hy ooor mosa aleh salem ka wakiha i think sab ko maalom hoga.woh bhi ek bara example hy ese answer ka

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Assalamualikum!

Sir i think that for the doing discussion on such topics first of all
one should have studied the Quran with its translation and tafseer
and the Hadiths... but its my personal point of view k one should
not go further with such issues, through which one may fall into
'badgumaanee' and one should save one's self from that...
is tarhan tou bauhatt saray issues hein like in Dr. Zakir Naik's
lecture one women asked a question k is it true k Allah is every
where like in every atom, every molecule, every cell..etc then Dr.
Zakir replied k we cant say it like this kiun k aik dafa a women
came to Prophet (S.A.W.S) and Aap(S.A.W.S) asked her k where is
Allah? she replied by lifting up her one finger k 'Allah opper
hai'...tou Aap (S.A.W.S) said k she has passed my exam... and at the
end Dr. Zakir replied k its better not to go further with issue...

bauhatt kuch hai iss mein like is tarhan tou mein kabhi kehti hun k
when Allah said k (mafhoom hai) "naiki ki taufeeq aur gunnah say
bachnay ki salahiyat nahin masiwaey mein hidayat dun..." agree??
phr Allah said k "Kufar k dilun per qufala peray huy hein ya per
gaey hein..." sometimes i get confuse in it... but how can i get the
solution is only through studing Quran aur by asking it someone
who is Sahib-e-raai... religion mein behas braey behas say mujhe
dar lagta hai... beshak we ask such question because Allah has
given us minds to think and to differentiate us from animals but
still one should think after studing the Quran properly... and i am
not one among those who have studied...

may Allah guide all of us..Aameen
i repeat k its my point of view, aur mein usually yehi prefer kerti

hun k mein yeh kisi authentic scholar say discuss kerun.
INSHALLAH TAALA i'll ask it from someone else and post it on

forum if i got something useful.

jazaakAllah khair!
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Asma
agreed....... but a little bit confusion,

Islam has never banned or forbidden any research sort of discussion.

U hav presented ur critical views very clearly in the best way.... I regard Dr. Zakir Naik but we should not take such a negative and narrow results from Prophet(PBUH)'s sayings.

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aur mein usually yehi prefer kerti

hun k mein yeh kisi authentic scholar say discuss kerun.

It is much pretty coz an Aalim can better enterprete on this topic.

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INSHALLAH TAALA i'll ask it from someone else and post it on

forum if i got something useful.

Jazak-a-hu-mullA-hu-Ahsan-al-Jaza

Regards,

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Allah Almighty said in Quran:

"Ma tara fi khal-q-i-Rahman-i-min tafaawut?" (Al-Mulk-29)

Hav u seen any defficiency in Allah's creation?

then said:

"Far-ji-il-basar.... hal tara min futoor?" (Al-Mulk-29)

Uthha apni nigah...... kia kahin koi jhol hay?

"Summ-ar-ji-il basar karra-tai-ni yan-qa-lib elaikal basaru khashia-nw wa hu-wa haseer."
(Al-Mulk-29)

Again look critically with repeatency ..... ur sight will come 2 u as failure and exhausted.

This is the true enterpretation of Quran...... Allah and His Prophet (PBUH) hav never discouraged creative research even though it is full of criticism.

I think...... there is no topic or question that should be left on basis of such fearful doubt as my sister "Asma" did.

Very sorry to use some harsh wordings....

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Mazhar

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Assalamualikum!
Sir!!
1. I think discussion with any authentic scholar is also a type of research, and i didnt say k do not do discussions, i said k discuss it with someone who is sahib-e-raai, kiun k sir now a days there are alotsssss of sect in Islam k atleast i am confuse... As there is only 1 Allah, 1Prophet(S.A.W), 1 Ummah, 1 Quran then why so many differences...???? U know what, lotsss of people replied me
of this question k it has also been pre-deceided k there will be 72/73 sects, and only 1 will go in Jannah tou yeh bhii isii liay hai... etc etc So, Sir! Confusion! Confusion! Confusion!

If Aalims has such big issues among them then rest of people can tell me what... now what I meant to say in my last posts k listen to everyone (every aalim-e-deen) and ask it from Allah k direct all of us to the right...


2. Sir I didn’t impose my point of view on anyone, I just said k I feel fear while discussing such debatable issues. And Sir when i read the verses u have mentioned then first thing that came to mind k "what is the context behind this? Means this would be definitely revealed at any particular instance..." Sir if it is possible for you tou please post the context behind this.

Allah (SWT) says: "And when My slaves ask you concerning Me, then (answer them), I am indeed near. I respond to the innvocations of the caller when he calls on Me." (Al-Baqarah: 186)

May be I am wrong, if it is so then please do correct me.
JazaakAllah!
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@ Asma Choudhary

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Assalamualikum!
Wa-alai-ku-m-u-salam

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I think discussion with any authentic scholar is also a type of research
Totally agreed .......


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i said k discuss it with someone who is sahib-e-raai
Here My confusion arises that: "Who is The Sahib-e-Raey?"

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As there is only 1 Allah, 1Prophet(S.A.W), 1 Ummah, 1 Quran

U r absolutely right


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then why so many differences...????

in my opinion ........ Dependency on other people like "Mulla-s" about Religion instead of searching Quran & Hadith myself

This is my fault sister....... that Mulla has created so confusions in same matters by also following the same parameteres (Same Quran, Hadith, Fiqa and Shariyah etc.)

BOlay to......... "Qasai (Butcher) b bakray par chhuri tab chalata hay jab log usay khatay hein"

If I would b supposed 2 hav knowledge bout Religion as it is my duty, no one can misguide me.

Coz Rasool-ullah (SAW) said:

"Talab-ul-ilm-i-fareeza-tu-n-ala-kull-i-muslim"

and:

"Khairu-kum-man-ta-alla-mal-Quran-a-wa-allama-hu"

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I didn’t impose my point of view on anyone
very right

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I feel fear while discussing such debatable issues
When u hav Quran then why do u so shy?

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this would be definitely revealed at any particular instance..
Absolutely right..... (Revealed in Makka)

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what is the context behind this?
Allah Pak discussed about His Prophethood in last Sura and about Himself (Tauheed) in these verses.

He said:

"Tabarak-alla-zi bi-yadi-hil mulk"

(Pak hay wo zaat jis k hathh Badshahat hay)

He arrogantly counts His Powers in this Surah that:

1) He is absolute Commander (Qadir-e-Mutlaq)
2) The best Creator

He emphasises on His creative ability by admiring the formation of Skies and invites criticism on his creation from His creation (Insaan).

Message is for research.... just invitation to criticize the Best One..... U will go with ur full mental and critic approach....... but result will b Nil.....

Muslims hav problem to enterprete Quran like this case...... They used to say that ..... Allah Almighty created the Best ...... and there is no need to find out the defficiencies as we know the result announced by Quran.... No defficiency.....

Dear,

The basic objective of these Quranic verses is to prepare man for Research & Development. His invitation "to find out His Defficiencies" is actually guidance of the path " to excel our efficiencies"

If we couldn't pick the real message, it will be harmful for us.

May Allah Almighty give us power to understand His Sayings truly

(Wallah-u-a-a-la-mu-bissa-wab)

Regards

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Dear,

The basic objective of these Quranic verses is to prepare man for Research & Development. His invitation "to find out His Defficiencies" is actually guidance of the path " to excel our efficiencies"

sir by this you mean to say k we have to find out the deficiencies of Allah... ????
i dont think so... here by "Research & Development" what i interpret k explore the world, look around your self... all these things will tell you about My existence...My greatness...

i dont think so k here "Research & Development" means k explore aur check whether He is right or wrong...
again contrversary...

but in the case of Aalim i think you are right...
that its everyone duty to learn Quran and Sunnah by him/her self and basically every muslim has this much knowledge jitna k wo samjhta hai k aik scholar ko hoti hai...
here i agree!

jazaakAllah!
regards
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kai aap nay suna nahee kah dua say taqdeerain badal jati hain .waisay bhi allah nay farmaya hay(bashak insan kaliy wahi hai jis ki woh koshish karta hai)
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man himself makes his fate it is very clear .so doont condemn ur fate for ur wrongdeeds.its up to u
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Remember one thing ladies and gentlemen.......

JIS NAYQISMAT LIKHEE HEY INSAN KI..........US KEY HANN KOI PAST,FUTURE. nahin .sub kuch PRESENT hey..........and we are livine in present ...but will leave in past...............so be careful.....

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