Salaam,
I read this word "Democracy" many times at many places but still, i am not able to grasp its meaning. Is it freedom of speech, freedom of thought or something else. Plz explain in simple terms what is its actual meaning and also its meaning as Pakistan is democratic state.

Democracy is a very vast topic and honestly it is really hard for some one like me to explain democracy in detail. I will try my best to write my views.
Basically democracy is the the idea that the people should have the freedom to rule themselves which means that they can do what ever they want to as long as it does not effect directly or indirectly to people and societies around them.
Democracy is also freedom of speech and thoughts as well.

Concept of democracy was first introduced by Muslims and democracy was shown in their every day's life. Now a days demcoracy is soemthing totally different. One can say that today's Democarcy is what U.S.A wants other nations to do...................

Pakistan's democratic approach is simple and straight forward it can be explained in 3 word
" MiGht is Right"

As i said earlier it is a vast topic i will try later to comment more on it but i am sure that other members specially "baban Mian ding Dong" and Adil memon can explain that much better then i can. I am not been pesimistic this is what comes in my mind when i see the word DEMOCRACY

Thanks

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Assalam Alaikum,

I was helpless once again, after reading both of your thoughts, because both of my dear friends are right. It has vast meaning and its interpretations are countless for the people who like to mold this word to their advantage. So I decided to went back to the basics and looked up the word in the dictionary, and it means:

Government by the people, exercised either directly or through elected representatives.

A political or social unit that has such a government.

The common people, considered as the primary source of political power.

Majority rule.

The principles of social equality and respect for the individual within a community.


So looking at these five meanings, one can easily say that democracy is something that involves consensus of the masses in its literal meaning. Therefore, giving people their basic right to voice their concerns in the form of vote, when they select their representatives and the governments are formed.

But this is only one side of the picture, that we see people around the world practicing their right and voting. So the question should be raised that if the people are electing these rulers, they should be for the people and work relentlessly for the welfare of their masses. Unfortunately, that is not the case, infact it is very opposite to that. Because one can see people voting in the third world, but no one shows the rigging that takes place in the background to get the desired results and so forth.

Because a viable democracy can only blossom, when it is backed by efficient institutions, without it you are faced with the dilemma that Pakistan is currently facing which is MIGHT IS RIGHT. Because we live in a country where the literacy rate is very low, that our masses are willing to follow even a DONKEY, who is wearing a uniform.

In short, there is no democracy in Pakistan.

Coming to the American form of democracy, to whom I practice my basic right as a citizen and vote, I see everything wrong with it. I mean the two party system in my opinion only show two sides of the box, and all the other sides are neglected, because they are not the popular approaches of the democrats and Republicans. So we end up with the people sharing the same ideologues from a long time. But I must say that whtever the flaws are, their institutions are far effective compared to Pakistan. But in my opinion, a lot of the voters who practice their basic right to vote say this, "that they are voting for a lesser evil." GO FIGURE.

In terms of American or western spreading democracy abroad is concerned, it is nothing but buch of B*** S***. Because one cannot impose democracy on others, as that may become very well a dictatorship. Therefore, the elections in IRAQ and AFGHANISTAN, are nothing more but to install American Slave Puppies as a ruler to these countries.

So, after examining all this, I think we are only left with Islamic form of democracy, which unfortunately is nowhere to be found in contemporary Islamic states. It is not possible to have Islamic diplomacy, unless one undertands the religions in its true meaning and shape their societies accordingly. But unfortunately, we have politicians who shape their policies in the red light districts of our country. UNACCEPTABLE.

Check these links out, and u may find it useful:

http://cssforum.com.pk/showthread.php?t=1159

http://cssforum.com.pk/showthread.php?t=1385

Besides my role model politicians in the Islamic World are Mahatir Mohammad, and Mr. Naimat Ullah Khan, and probably the only two honest politicians left.

Thanks.

Salams,
Democracy................it is a name given to something .................
well...............maybe......Freedom to do anything but within the constitutional
limits........................!!!!!! I mean it, 'ANYTHING' !!!!

Salaam Sister,

You would like to take a look at this as well:

http://www.cssforum.com.pk/showthrea...ight=Democracy
(This is an essay posted by our dear brother Tabassum Shabbir Awan)

Lekin if you were able to undertand by the precise posts of Babban, Zahid and Yasir Miyan, you don't really have to read any essays!

However if the thirst is unquenchable... get a book of political science.

Regards,
Adil Memon

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37th Common Training Program

for rest of the world:
of the people
for the people
by the people

for pakistan :
off the people
far the people
buy the people

Assalam Alaikum,

Brother Nhpaki, as always thanks for putting the puzzle pieces so perfectly in the place, by using your one liners. I really apprecite it.

Thanks.

Well whats my Pakistan Studies teacher taught us was what our brother nhpaki said but i have a few questions here too,as i am not much sure!
Is democracy ruling of the people,by the people,for the people?
If yes then the OF the people and BY the people formula didnt made me clear,please explain.
Thirdly,What does people here refers to?Cant the people be from services or fields like forces,Govtt?

Regards,
Khushal

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@ of the people: the members elected r the representatives of the people
@ by the people: they are after all elected by the people
as far as the creatures' ,from the judiciary, executive and legislature, becoming 'people' is concerned they can become people in their public capacity not in official capacity...
if you are an officer you can cast your vote @ of your native constituency, and not in the official organization in which you r woking,to make your local contester a representative of you and your people, on the other hand if you want to be elected member by the people , first you ought to do away with your prevailing official designation(chief justice, general, federal secy etc.), and then go to the masses for becoming something like chosen by the people.....
this is my rhetoric of true democracy .....if you have more unequivocal points to elaborate , you are most welcome

Thanks alot!
That was enought to make me full clear about the true defination of Democracy!
But then as you said one must leave away his official designation before he can be nominated for Elections!
Official Desingation here refers to Designation in any Government institution or it can involve job of a person in a Private Organisation!?

Regards,
Khushal

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