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@ Faraz
Stop this provincial adherence and witless emotionalism. You are becoming the source of hatred and adding fuel to fire. You introduced the thread to discuss "We as a nation" so just stick to it. When everyone is talking about Pakistan as a whole, then why ur emphasis is solely on the fate of Baluchistan?
DISCUSS PAKISTAN, NOT PROVINCES. |
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R/Surmount
1st I have told you the thinking of the people Balochistan which was rightly so because I have been living since I born and I know the problems which Is going on and its my duty to represent my self being Balochistani every where and any place because we have been facing injustice just poor thinking people
We have been struggling here in Balochistan last day three people were killed on the name of racialism mind you two were Punjabi that’s why I am mentioning This issue again n again cause innocent people has been killed ask any other member who belong to Balochistan you will come to know that how many Punjabi people has been killed in last few month and I always protest it but I guess this is called separation Yes I joined the forum for multiple purposes and yes I feel proud to mention the problem of Balochistan I am saying with sorry and with gloomy heart still we didn’t learn the lesson what happen in Bangladesh This is list which we have been facing being nation Corruption • Education • Health • Clean water • Poverty • Against terrorism • Law and order • Peace • Hunger • Suicide (in month of June 37 people attempted the suicide cause of poverty) • To bring new political system • For leader • For justice • For injustice • Against operation • Our own Muslim brothers has been killed in our own territory from own other Muslim brothers • All social Issue • Innocent people killing • Target killing • Our own investor in not investing their own money in their own country • America • Taliban • Bijli • Ata I guess its good enough to sought out but I guess even single percent problem is not sought Whom should we blame? Who is responsible for all this? Alas! You can understand the problem of Balochistan you will never make them on fun like you did quoting English For you that was joke but for us it is pain full because we don’t have finance to make more education institution like you guys have CSS academy Kips Academy Universities Medical colleges And so many more But let me tell you unfortunately for us there is not a single academy What you want to listen you have listen about fly over in Balochistan we have only two fly over one of them still under construction I can mention so many other problems You can count in yours province I am getting touchy you made me to think on it Even still PPP didn’t stop the operation So whom we blame |
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Heedless of warning? ..................................
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sorry i didnt read yours postage
sorry i didnt read yours postage i was typing mean while you given the warning
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Sorry i didn't read the thread, i just thought to give my views!
As a Nation, we are not a failed state. Since the majority in the country are following the typical mentality of a normal Pakistani, it doesn't mean that a minor portion of the people who at times make us feel proud are involved too. Pakistan will never ever be termed as a failed state as long as people are getting education, Parents are respected, we are obeying our religion. FAILED STATE is nothing else but a phrase that European country's might use for us, just cos we don't poke our nose into the matters of every country, or maybe cos we don't have the resources to poke our nose, secondly they term us as failed because we don't have the proper infrastructure, proper development, etc. I hope they let us carry out our decisions and our tasks ourselves, am sure one day they'll be force to take back there old opinion! Its for the people to make it a CLASSIC state than let it being the FAILED STATE (so called). Pakistan Zindabad!
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Dear Faraz,
Of all the responses to ur thread,the best that to me felt like answering u in the best easy way was from Mr.Hero.Yes,indeed, we need few more Iqbals...But,unfortunately,we can't even save B.Bies of our day.Thats but pathetic and thats but the basic reason of our being labbeled or thought off hand failed state. U plz dont feel any touchy for martyrdom of Bugti Akbar,or sporadic bomb explosion somewhere in baluchistan wherein got martryed few baluchis and u jus started looking all around pak as if u belonged to some different people and world that is hell bent upon destroying ur baluchistan..No,brother..All Pak today is but burning from terrorism to lawlessness to livelihood. Carry on, the fellows here mostly doing their job.M but learning lot,n hope,Faraz, u also try to do so instead of hanging in the balance.. @LAST ISLAND: Madam/Sir, With due respect, i but wish to request you that this forum being a platform for css aspirants, so better all gets on the board.If it gets starting like be Pakistani,how wd one written pass css candidate manage to a question in his/her intrvw like,"Why Baluchis are against punjab"?,n so on.... So i hope that this forum does allow provincialism to even extent so that we could at least identify the disease before getting to cure it...... Plz no offence...wd b grateful,if otherwise;n we started like behaving here tight-lipped beurocrats in the days we aspiring to become ones.. Best regards |
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Peaceful coexistence and political dailogue
Provincialism is the ugliest part of our nation. I don’t believe in problems of Baluchistan or of Sindh or of NWFP or even of Punjab, instead I believe in talking about the problems of Pakistan and sufferings of people. Has anyone from these provinces tried to identify the covert hand behind this abhorrence amongst people of provinces? If baloch people don’t have funds then instead of spreading hate they should try to solve problems with peaceful dialogue. The dilemma of whole country is that we, as nation, have lost faith on political process and solving problems through diplomatic tact. Everyone here believes that the only way to get your rights is to raise weapons. Same is happening in NWFP, happened in sindh and now stage is set for Baluchistan. The second downside of our people is that everyone wants to solve problems in a way he feels right without giving considerations to others.
Someone has rightly said that “Ghar ko aag lage ghar hi kay chragh say”.For God’s sake, try to realize that common man (Pakistani) is suffering in every province. We achieved Pakistan through peaceful political process (the massacre was after effect of division). Don’t loose faith on peaceful coexistence and yes we are facing problems but the way in which we want to solve problem is unjustified. And when literate people like Fraz say that they don’t have funds to set up css academy, kips or universities then instead of waiting for Govt. try to solve this problem through the cooperation of local people and through elected representatives (obviously baloch) raise this issue in parliament, in press, in media and through communication with people who believe in balanced growth of all provinces. |
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Dear Khusal, Thank for yours thoughts I really do agree with you but being nation we have
I really agree we are producing gem but we are not exploiting there talent which is main root cause for it that’s why we didn’t achieve our original position where we should be stand In all around the word we have nuclear power it is one big achievement that we are leading to Islamic state But Question arise why American still influence on our country Just last day example Richard Boucher he said Pakistan problem is not Mushraf its load shedding and inflation Who has given rights to talk in our political, internal issue? I guess till will not finish the influence of America from own political system we will face these Issue which is going all around Pakistan operation This is Iranians statement against America http://www.geo.tv/urduworld.htm We have lost our vision our path and even our youth which has only hope which can bring the revolution to our country We have lost our culture You there is plan to capture our youth through Media like India is doing from his lot of channels especially star plus I pray from core of heart we can bring our youth on the path which Quaid-e- Azam and our elders thought for it @ Dear Brother Treatindeed 1st I am really thank full to yours loving and caring thought I really appreciate yours idea which you have Give Respected Moderato last island Why even in CSS exam only at least people from different province when talk with Balochistani people at least they knew our internal problem might be few people like you will take care more of it which can change the thought and they will come to main agenda That’s is not the people of Punjab this is our • System • Bureaucracy • Few our own leaders who is exploiting our own people and doing brain wash of the people of Balochistan • Fail political system Yes let me tell there are few organization who really working for it Like • BLA BLF They are creating hatred against Punjab among there own people and all of us know that too so this problem can be only solve through out dialogue Not to conceal the issue @ Red rose In yours entire postage one line really my mind totally different view That being nation we have lost our faith Yes brother we have lost the way We have lost the ideology of Pakistan We have lost Quaid vision We have lost right path towards success We have become more of Sindhi, Balochistani So brother we need a plat form where we can address our issues Where we should have freedom of speech to solve all the issue And being nation we stand front of all over the world to say Sab Say Phela Pakistan For that we have to work on it To change the mentality of the people To know the problems of each other To give love each other To care each other No matter which province, which culture what language Only one purpose We are Pakistani and 1st Pakistan @ R/surmount http://www.geo.tv/7-2-2008/u32062.htm http://www.geo.tv/7-3-2008/u32102.htm For you |
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Let Faraz say what he wants to....
When we talk about the Pakistani nation then people of Balochistan are not separate from it. Problem of Balochistan is problem of Pakistan as well.
India has spent a lot of money and efforts on these people and it is reflected in the way they speak, their tone. They can talk about the problems Pakistan is facing like Balochistan is not the only province where there is injustice, sufferings and poverty but they speak about Pakistan as the source of their problems. We have created similar problems for Indians in past and now they are doing this in return. Let me say that it isn’t the solution to ask them to be quiet. No doubt, they have suffered and they are still suffering. If we individually can’t do anything for them we can at least listen to them. It may reduce their harshness to some extent. We are a nation and what we need as a nation is tolerance, at first place.
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@ms.bushra
If we individually can’t do anything for them we can at least listen to them. It may reduce their harshness to some extent. I think this comment will add fuel to the fire.This is something which musharraf did with pakistan by allowing media.As a one nation we must try to do efforts to make realize people of deprived provinces that we are with them and their problems are our problems. we must come up with solution that is acceptable to all. |
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