I was saying what can we do at the individual level. I havent put this as the ultimate solution.

Hats off on yours loving, caring and understandable thoughts really I appreciate from the core of my heart

Yes Balochistan is nothing with out Pakistan

I wish all the people like especially our

Leaders
Bureaucracy
System

Think like you their will be peace full Pakistan

And no body says that I am Punjabi, Sindhi, Pashtoon, Baloch


All of them say
Pakistani


Sab Say Phela Pakistan


Now coming to yours one really serious point which has been ignored

India role here in Balochistan


Yes India is supporting to
BLA (Balochistan liberation army)

BLF (Balochistan liberation force)


I have been reading in news paper that they have been supported by the Indians

This is really serious Issue which we must discuss on the entire federal and provincial forum


In the end thank you for yours loving thought

I wish we will soon Peace full Pakistan
Ameen

We have not failed as a nation. Let me remind u the the Earthquake of 2005, the war of 1965, the participation of people in "Qarz Utaro Mulk Sunwaro", etc. what these incidents point at? they undobtedly highlight our strength for our nation. those provinces who think they are being should take into consideration that Pakistan is father to to all the four provinces. how it can be unjust with them. having said this, one should also bear in mind the role of politicians in this context. who is provoking the people to promote provincialism- its the politicians. they are throwing the dust into the eyes of the nation. the need of the hour is that we educate ourselves and our generations to always be aware of such type of propagandas. in the words of iqbal

" Afrad kay hathoon mein ha aqwam ki taqdeer
Har fard hay mllat kay muqaddar ka sitara"

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Men are born to succeed, not fail.

I don't agree with that. Provinces were there when Pakistan was not, how can a father be borne before offspring lol (jk).

I think you should not discuss about provinces. The topic of discussion is "Why as nation we have failed", so discuss about nationhood of Pakistanis and the actions of the State of Pakistan regarding nationalism.

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The precondition for existence of a higher humanity is not the state, but the nation possessing the necessary ability.

@
Respected Red Rose

I guess yes if can not do individually we can give the care and sympathy to other some how it will reduce the much burden as it is saying

KHUSI BANTA SAY BARAHTI HIA GAUM BANTA SAY KAM HOTA HIA

This is platform for us where we can talk the issue and when from us the person come to the seat at least he knows the problem of entire Pakistan might be he can do something better for it

Yes we must come up to the solution. A solution which acceptable for all blood shed is not the way
About Mushraf he had play vital role in it I still remember he one quoting

HUM TUMHEIN WAHA SAY HIT KARAE GA PATA BHI NAHI CHALA GA

Pakistan is state people are not against it but people are against

Who is running this state?

Pakistan father so Mushraf some where I don’t know what he is but he is elder of our nation

So what statement he has given it is every single child remember

He was one of them who created this environment

@
Mohsin

I really agree with you

• Earthquake
• 1965
• Qarz utaro scheme

We have proved our unity MasAllah very well and have shown to the world that we stand as a nation


But my brother
Why only those time
Why not we are regular in it
Why not we remain always like this
Why we not always think like this
Why we need any trouble/problems/war/earthquake to get united

Brother we must set the platform today for our own up coming generation

India is working on our youth he is working through Media he is changing our culture our thought through media

I don’t know how many agree on it but i do feel this

But dear this youth can bring revolution people like me and you who is part of this loving nation

So we are talking here we must bring with up new ideas to tackle down the problem what ever we are facing being a nation not being a individual


I am really thank full to the person who has set the platform for us to talk on the issues
Thank you for CSS forum & staff

Musharraf................ he is the whole nation's bad luck. Dictators like him use to say such nonsense.Allah has given him chance to change the destiny of this nation but he did the opposite.

Being a Pakistani i strongly believe that our political regime is not capable of handling the situation so only we can do something for this country.What an individual can do..............? Good question, an individual can make the differnce but for this he must have faith.First set the standards, achieve them and let the other people to join hands. suffering will continue unless and untill this individual is ignorant of his/her responsibilities.

@ Dearest Faraz Brother

I won't say Thanks for your support for Punjab, but I would really say it if you really support them Cz they are Pakistani(not just Punjabi).

I have no objection for your joining or mentioning the problems of our Province, Baluchistan.

Dear brother, I am agree with you that Balochistan is not having proper edutaional institutes, but dear brother Yehi baat to mein aap ko keh raa hun k ap inn institutes mein jo ap ne mention kiye, get education from them and latter on come into the filed and get the higher seats of Govt. services, and then make development in whole of the country including Baluchistan, as every single person knows that we are not having a proper govt. who could make development in the country, here is the point that I want to that get good education from Punjab province, then come in Govt. through CSS or Politics and then in Federal Govt. and make development in whole country honestly.

Here is the difference b/w you and me. You are representing Baluchistan and I am Pakistan, not just Punjab. In my opinion, Pakistan is the name of combination of Sindh+Balochitan+Punjab+NWFP and all of the rest agencies including Kashmir. I would count problems of whole Provinces of Pakistan, every Province, City, Town, Colony, Road, Street, Home and even every single individual.

I know the problems of Balochistan, I am saying you to solve this problem by coming into federal govt. but you are supposing that every one here is against Balochistan.

There is a punjabi proverb

Raah Peyaa Jany te Waah Peya Jany

so I know you better know the problems of Balochistan than me and even every one present of this Forum but we are not against you, nor against Balochistan's problems. We want to solve them.


I am agree with you 100%


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what shows these links?

At the end, I just want to say that Balochistan is having much serious problems than rest of the all of Provinces.

I apologize for those sayings of mine which you think harsh ones.

Pakistan Zinda Baad

Regards and Best Wishes

Surmount

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~Time owns each and everything~
~Useless youth if not useful for Pakistan~

I believe that here too we have lost the path by discussing right things in right way. I will give favour to fraz for his thinking because when we talk about problems of Pakistan and then analyze these problems in to small atomic steps we will come to the conclusion that to solve this big problem first we have to solve problems of a single home, then of a street, then of a city and finally we will be somewhere to solve the problem of whole province.

C’mon guys come to the topic and discuss why being a nation we are not up to the mark and what practically we can do to achieve that desired mark. If we analyze all posts most of people have identified right problems but no one has yet come up with right solution that is acceptable. It is my humble request to all of you plz stop this baloch dominated discussion, and let us try to wrap up the discussion with solution and try to find ways to implement that solution.

I really appreciate yours idea Mr Red Rose

Now solution how can we can bring the change being nation


• Economic Stability

• Good political leader

• Providing the justice true justice

• Education

• Health

• Poverty Reduction

• Patriotism

• Awareness program on those areas which need it badly

• Stop killing our own people

• Tolerance to listen the truth

• American Role from our country

• Social problem

• Make a vision for us

• Youth mobilization

• Media role in positive way

• Corruption

• Merit

• Favourism

• Nepotism

• Focus on our own Agenda for our own benefit

• Inflation

Might be many more things we will bring down to focus on

Hmm.very detailed list. In my opinion:

1. Give your people confidence and make a system that will ensure everyone who does an effort will be counted.
   
2. Second ensure justice in every walk of life. Do the things on their merit while ensuring no one is above law. Make every one responsible and accountable.
   
3. And last try to do things at their basic level because once you are able to keep your basics right that means you have rightly understood the problem and moving in right direction

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Let’s try to build our future with our own hands. May Allah give us enough strength to put this country on right track.Ameen.God bless Pakistan.