I think that we should not sound pedantic on this point.What I mean by sounding pedantic is that the clitched phrases like "The land for the Muslims of Sub continant " have more examinatioin point value but they are not fylly answering to the core issue to an enquiring mind.G.W.Choudhry commenting in his "The last Days of united Pakistan" on East Pakistan crisis says that it was a conflict between three R's.the Religion,the Race and the Region.in which religion was sidelined.
It may be said that that TNT(Two Nation Theory) is not recognizable after December 16,1971.If the bond of religion was not able to sustain a united nationhood on that fateful day then ideology of Pakistan is a cimplicated question.
However,we cant find a compact answer by comparing autonomy/secessionist movements in post independent Pakistan with the pre 1947 history.If things turned ugly between federating units then it does not belie the idea that Muslims were in a precarious situation and were rightfully scared of a ruthless "majority"(My own inverted commas ...In fact this otherisation by saying "them" as "majority" brings in ideology) .At least there is a consensus that Muslims were in danger though Islam was not.
In fact we should believe that notwithstanding the unfavorable subsequent developoments after 1947 viz a viz ''the ideology of Pakistan" it still holds true.Here I am mindful that partition led to ceasless and unnecessay hostiltity between India and Pakistan.However, we cant neglect the mutual alienation between the two communities.There was no guarantee that both communities would have lived in peace in a United Sub continent.

Dear fellows,

Certainly the consensus is on the fact that Pakistanis are the real guardians of Ideology of Pakistan. There are only two countries emerged on the world map on name of ideologies i.e. Pakistan and Israel. The ideology of Pakistan emerges from the principles of Islam – the true/pristine injunctions of Islam… Very rightly quoted by fellows that Islam is a complete code of system, Islam contains every thing for every body, it is the only deen… but it’s a trust fact that talibanization is not true islam neither Qazi Hussain Ahmed sb nor Maulana Fazlur Rehman sb are propagating true injunctions of islam. Regret if I negate feelings of any body but it’s a fact that no current political party is doing any good… PPP, MQM are doing hell with the country. PML N is also not giving any benefit either……

Regretfully, it remained dismay to our beloved country that we are unable to have good leadership who could lead us to road of prosperity. Zulfiqar Bhutto, Ayub Khan were very intelligent people but they also did bad for roots of country. Benazir Bhotto was also intelligent as compared to Nawaz Sharif but what they all did…… comparatively they did much wrong thn good…….. Certainly technocrats and bureaucrats (both civil and military bureaucracy) also were unable to give us true spirit of our ideology.

I can remember words of Allama Iqbal that it is always bond of Islam which helped Muslims to come under a single flag..... Islam is a banner, which can be used to bring different sections of society in same line. nonetheless, we should be aware that talibinization is not only against islam but also fr Pakistan.....

To sum up, it’s a fact that a couple of persons cannot lead Pakistan to progress, yet we need a class/mindset of some people, who can make the change. In my thinking civil services/bureaucracy can be a class a community side by side with the intelligentsia and academicians, who can bring changes for the country.

The bottom line is that we as Pakistanis are unable to make our country good till time we are unable to get rid of these current sort of politician slot….

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Sir rightly said Pakistan was not built on the principle of keeping the exploitive model
People were disenchanted when they Qazalbash as the governer of punjab right after the partition.
Iskander mirza , a descendent of mir jafar , a TAG officer , a maneuvorer and a doughy person as their new premier
M J akbar In his India The seige with in Taunted that Ayub khan in the 1954 was reading The Man who ruled India And meeting with poloticain to have an idea how to usurp pakistani people
Bangalis were the poineer of TNT It was the exploitation which disgruntled them
They demanded paksiatn because they remembered the annulment of partition of bangal, swadeshi tehrik.
Repression from hindu feudal class
But what they get in pakistan
Was a despotic ruler like Ayub khan
A Martinet like Munim khan
The suspicious death of hussain shaheed sharwardi
Neglect of their aspiration , their love to their language , their culture
They were considered meek , feeble not worthy of the marshal race. The brown english man
Fatima jinnah vs ayub khan and the procession in karachi
Who were the champions of TNT in post partition pakistan
They were Khaliq us zaman , altaf gohar , Army generals , Iskandir mirza , Ghulam mohammad , justice munir . Just look at their background
So in that context when every now and then a new philosphy is imposed on pakistani people
When their will is bent in every possilble manner I think we should now asy to all the champion of ideology to pakstan
Please stop designing new leadership on us. Stop guiding us that who will be our ultimate saviour.
You will be creating another monster, on whoom you would have no control
You would again have some disenchanted jihadis who will renege on you because they would feel they are hoodwinked

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no tabassum. i disagree with u.
our pakistan is now back to its democratic form.Insha'ALLAH we have now a very bright future.we are ideological state and we will continue to be guided by our ideological values.there have been problems of a very grave concern,but due to the multitudes of crises u shud not discredit our citizens and our rulers.now our politicians have realised that the ppl of pakistan hv opened their vigilant eyes and the ppl of pak cannot be tricked anymore.
just support this govt .though its not our ideal,but its fledgling and nascent.we shud support it.because we r now in no mood to see another martial law.dont hate this govt.this is the govt which can provide us with the base of establishing and strengthening DEMOCRATIC PAKISTAN once and for all.

And sir about the current leadership I am just amazed sir
Our establishment is responsible for the incumbent gornment
In presence of free and fair election commission can Zardari and other run for election
What was happening in 2002 Was it the politicians then sir. What about the judical sysytem what about chak shezad
And sir even Ishrat hussain seven pillar of governance if implemented in paksitan you will not have these unscruplous ruffians . So who stoped the power elite for once doing what is best for the country insted of claiming them selves to be
And corruption is even a part of USA What about blogojovich Compare the precedent to NRO

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Respected sir,just accept the assertion that WE ARE A DEMOCRACY now.we have not to elect those ppl who do not perform well.we have chosen them,and now we r criticising them.its naive judgment.we shud support this govt.we must not destabilise it,and prevent any action aimed at its destabilization.these ppl were asking for the last chance.and now they have got the chance.lets see what they do.if they also make corrupt use of this chance too,we must start a campaign from our own homes to elect those who can perform well.
plz frank bhai ek new discussion topic start karo jis men likho k how to improve the performance of this govt and how to bring awareness in the ppl of pakistan to elect the true representatives.

Apropos of reply of 'fromQAU,' it makes me wonder to think, "where is democracy!"

I am compelled to stick on my previous stance that we cannot progress till we are not going to have any good leadership.....

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salam
As long as the doctrine of necessity exits oligarchies will be strong not only in our country but elsewhere also.
Democracy doesnt necessarily mean majority and Dictatorship may or may not be tyranny in Pakistan.
we must not ignore the peculiar ecology of this area i.e feudalist ecology.we cannot escape it but we can mould it to be less lethal.
yes we need to help the democracy to take its roots ,but this has to started by those who say they practice democracy,rest are just spectators,powerless spectators.

AoA...Farooq Basir sb.
i'm highly honoured by your comments.

Ideology of Pakistan, neither died when East Pakistan fiasco happened nor it is dead now. Ideology of Pakistan never claimed that it can keep the two parts of Pakistan together for ever it just meant that Hindu's and Muslim's are two separate identities living in the same country. Separation of Pakitan was a result of our failure of Nation building and not that the Ideology of Pakistan was a wrong concept. East Pakistan remained independent as Bangladesh and did not merge with india and it remains as a predominantly Muslim country, so the dictum that " we have thrown Two-Nation theory into the Indian Ocean" as said by Mrs Ghandhi. does not hold water.
Well its simple we can safeguard our nation from such incidents in future by not repeating the same mistakes as we did in the case of East Pakistan, that is give each federating unit its due share and respect the sensitivities of the people living in them.

Regards

AoA.

Pakistan is an ideological state, infact the first of its kind( israel being the second), and i think we all have diluted upon what the ideology of Pakistan stands for.

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@Mumtaz Hayat Maneka

Brother you are saying that pakistan is an ideological state not an islamic...but there is a research by Dr.Hasan Askari Rizvi that "Ideological state is a political concepts...Here some words from his research.He said it is doctrinaire in nature and develops an aura of self righteousness as far as its political ideology is concerned.it wants to control the public and private demains in the polity on the basis of the official ideology,leaving hardly any scope for autonomous political,social and cultural activities.Dissent in public and private is a taboo...Whether a political ideology is drived from a metaphysical source or developed consciously as a set of inter related framework..it leads todogmatic perspectives on state affairs..such state cannot allow any kind of liberal democracy,political or cultural pluralism and autonomouse economic activity not sanction by the guardians of the ideology...etc etc