@Mumtaz Hayat Maneka

AoA Sir

its really a pleasure to have company of judicious persons like u on this forum.U have been a source of inspiration and learning for so many aspirants.
Sir with utmost respect i do agree u but u know well that the speech which u have quoted has remained and is a source of many controversies,differnt people have interpreted it differntly. When one says that ideolgy of pakistan is based on islam it does not mean that the objective of establishing pakisatn is to establish a theocracy.Islam is the best social order as well.It gives freedom to all minorities to perform their religious functions and enjoy their due rights.

Sir one thing which is not clear to me is "whether ideology of pakistan died with the separation of East Wing " as claimed by miss Gandhi at that time.did we fail to safeguard our ideolgy?what was the main cause?what can we do to avoid such a tragedy in the future? Sir ur thinking and comments will be of great help for us.plz comment

@Frankenstein of css,Tabassum Shabbir Awan,Mumtaz Hayat Maneka and respected other members..

Here my question is that Pakistan is an islamic state or an ideological state???

salam
Pakistan is based on Islamic Ideology so it is Islamic ideological state.
regards.

[Pakistan is an muslim state for practising shining priciples. Where muslims can lead their life in the safety of their homeland , free from the bigot , biased hindus oranization like shudhi , sanghtan and hind pariwar. It was a reaction to most biased hindu prejudiced behavior like moti lal nehru , dya nand and even gandhi to an extent when muslim presciene a future like undulasia for them selves. So they struggled for pakistan
Saqib shah Howevr i also want your opinion also on a question Can agencies , if you know in the past like CID , CIA (pakistani) , FIA and others, are the guardian of ideological boundries of pakistan.
And i want another queation that what is the boundry of an idea. Can an idea is said to be bounded in a confinement. ?

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only one solution,if u want to rejuvenate ideology of pakistan.
bring talibans into government,and make some reforms in their approach or outlook towards modern world.they r now at extreme,just make them flexible.
only then is the ideology of pakistan coming back to us,otherwise lets move on to discuss anothe issue.
after 3 or 4 days of discussion over this topic ,there is confusion growing and growing.no progress yet.

Well i dont think that now there is building confusion
I think we are at consensus now the the real protectors of an ideology are the people , the citizen of a nation who imbibed the idea of patriotism . They rejunuvate the nation and its identity

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i agree with u frank....
atleast we r free from Hindu bigotry and dominance,and we r free to make progress in our own way.

ok consensus to hai par solution nahin hai na?????
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I guess we need not to let the country in hands of Taliban. Our Quaid's dream was to make pakistan a state where everyone can live freely as per the guidance provided by Islam. And in my opinion this is the solution.

solution hai bhai
Hegel says
Consciouness determine existance
We should be awared of our condition .
Untill we are concious of our dreadfull plight instead of arguing that u are right or i am right we cant heed further
I am nowadays feel distress . You may agree with me that election of 18th feburary are hijacked so
Now we are again faced with our created monstors Jihadis of nineties arent we they are even threatening islalmabad So brother isnt it the time for us to unite and do what ever in our power to have harmony , progress and moral order in the country
We can start even from following traffic rule.
Stanging in a qeue
Protesting against the rude behavior
Learning how to say NO to corruption
Never be intimidated to say the right
You see baby steps going towards a auspacious futurity

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@Frankenstein of css

U hit the nail on the head by quoting Hegal "Consciouness determine existance"

Every section of the society should feel the rsponsibility.Lets sum it up.

Nation as a whole is the guardian of ideolgy,itellectual may make masses aware of their foundation,public may compell its representatives not to form laws against the ideolgy of pakistan,parliament may safeguard the feelings of public and executive then certainly implement it and the judicary may play its role as the custodian of laws made by the representatives of the masses.

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