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@ Hafiz Ishtaiq
Sir, plz dont take tension and stay relaxed as purpose of this forum is to discuss things out and find their solutions. As for your demand for election, election, election of student unions, everybody knows the result in advance in PU as unarmed regular students cant face the heavely armed professional students of you organization. Further, you have the backing of a religious/political party with huge funds and support of any type. The elections are good if held in a peacfull atmospher where students are free to express their right of vote, but the situation is created in campus such a way that oppenent students are frightened, locked in hostel rooms and ordered not to enter in the campus. I would admit there are some nice people present in IJT, who visit the torture victim after they have been thrashed by the "specialists" and say sorry. Hafiz Hussain Ahamad also visited the residence of Imran Khan after he has been taught a "lesson" |
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Interesting debate going on; i'd just want to share my jamiat experience at PU:
My first day at the university, I went up to the cafetaria and asked for 7-up. 'There's no 7-up here', Fanta? 'No Fanta here', Nestle Apple Nectar? 'Nestle Products are banned in the university, they are not islamic, jamiat doesnt allow them'. ok, then what do you have? 'we have shandi cola, shandi lemon and shandi orange'. Ok, i'l take shandy orange....it was less of a drink and more of this sticky goee thing that tasted horrible...had to throw it away and have tea or fresh juices for the rest of 2 years Coincidentally, it was Ramazan, my first night in the hostel, at some thing like 300 in the night (one is barely able to sleep by that time on the first night), there is this vague thundering going on some where..drawing nearer and nearer, you are half sleep not able to figure it out only when you get this HUGE blast on your door. every soul in the room is up, its the jamiat representative (she's tall and big, you dare not mess with her) beating all doors one by one with this large stick waking up the faithful for sehr (the Fajr call for prayer was at 0545 those days). All the girls cursed them, went back to sleep because it was so early and were promptly late for sehr. Standing outside the tiny bank, waiting to deposit the fee, the cue is very long and moving slowly, but people are waiting in the cue. Suddenly there is this loud noise, people shouting, glass breaking, and jamiat guys who dont look like students at all, rather men in their early thirties, start protesting that they have been standing here for a very long time. They get into the bank and beat the guard who's not letting them enter...its a sick scene. Its all about the energies of youth being wasted; pitiable fellows who are pawns ordered around by people they dont even know... Only that one has a special association with one's university and its very sad to know that a university professor was beaten up. And then there are people who actually have the guts to publically justify it , that it was the correct thing to do... |
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long live jamiat long live pakistan
i was villager and nothing know about admission-form and process of admission. it was last date for apply and time is near 12:30pm.
this was the question of my career but my mind was so disturbed that i was completely failed to think somethind. i stoped my bike near pulc parking and enter in the college. in front of college gate an admission stall was present. i went near the stall and ask a question about my admission. a youngman who looked college student give me detail about admission process.he gave me consolation . now we were on the way of head clerk room for obtained prospects. he helped me and i filled my form. now he was in the way of professor room for attestation my documents. at last my admission-form accepted for process of admission. few day later when merit list appeared my name was present in the list,the process of paying fee was very difficult but another person solved this tention very easily. both people belong to ijt. after admission i never attened any metting nor participate in any programme which was held by ijt. but i looked many cases when the people of jamiat help other students. i accept there are some defects which present in jamiat people but they are better comparison to all other student organizations
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My experience with Jamiat.
My experience with Jamiat.
Living in a hostel, there were three parties, two main MSF and Jamiat, and both exactly opposite to each other. I am sorry to say, But again I would like to say what I observed in my hostel, This may not be the case every where. Jamiat used to organize Qurran classes and MSF used to organize music parties. Jamiat used to organize Book fair (with books of all kinds, Islamic, novels, Afsana's course books such things) MSF used to organize Fun Fair, with mixed dancing, lover's cage, song dedication, music events. Jamiat asked its students to regularly go to Mosque for prayers and MSF used to bring chars, alcohol to hostel. Jamiat organized Flood light cricket tournamnet while MSF used to bring cars with buffers and noised the whole hostel. In our institution the negative points of Jamiat were like as opposition to fun fair's lover's cage they used to take law in their own hand and beaten students involved but only after trying their best that this be stopped in institution's premises. They beaten students if any one found drunk or tunn in chars. They had good relation with the whole staff and professors and most of the time their efforts were encouraged (of course not all like beating students and taking law in their own hands). The same I observed in an other institution of same standard in an other city. And yes I came to know that Jamiat's volunteers even went to Bangla Desh for helping the Army there. And Jamiat students and Jamat e Islami in Bangladesh is going to face cases against them for helping Pak Army. I also strongly oppose beating any one and beating some teacher is not at all acceptable what so ever. And I do blame Jamiat that it was involved in such incidents. The purpose of my post is not to represent Jamiat as faultless organization, but I just told what I personally observed in my institution and not the whole country.
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@amubarak
Thanks a lot for sharing the "inside information" .............hahaha. Means the information from inside the girls hostel. It shows the use of force is prevalent in the girls hostel as well, and it is not the boys only who are the victims. |
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Any fellow from the Campus, what is the latest situation now ?
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everything is old
students and leaders of jamiat leave for their home for few days.
cm punjab will never set up operation against jamiat because of following reason 1- jamiat will play an important role during protest against ppp govt 2- jamiat is right hand of pml(n) in expected election 3- the next election will fight on the base of left, right groups 4- if case will go to court, court decision will be favour of jamiat because jamiat play important role in lawyer momemt. 5- after 1st may everything will same like 1st april 6-i know the method how jamiat expel from pu.
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Sorry sir, we want to see both sides of the picture.
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So Munawar Hassan says about PU incident
Daily Express Lahore Edition April 7, 2010 |
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