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Question Eligibility of Interior Minister?

President Zardari rewards remission to Interior minister Rehman Malik in all cases, president spoke person Farhatullah Babar has confirmed that President rewards remission on the request of Prime Minister Gillani.

Yesterday afternoon, when Khawja Sahreef-ud-din decided 3 years imprisonment in two cases(Car Commission case and Robbery case), Honorable Justice announced three years imprisonment.

Although President has powers to reduce the time frame or rewards remission, but the question arises on eligibility of Interior Minister?

It doesn't look that the cold war between Government and Judiciary will force the "LONG BOOTS" to come out of barracks?
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yes ,interior minister is eligible.
everything is done according to law and no law has been broken.
according to law/constitution ,it is right.
morally,some may take it as right and some may take it as wrong.
interior minister is an active person and he faces challenges boldly.
well cases are judged by courts and president rewarded remission. so man is clear.
this is not an issue.issue is going to develop with babar awan and following him Prime minister.its leading to a grand clash.
impacts on Pakistan is not of this decision but for same decisions in coming future.
its time to move on for politicians,media and courts.
public has already moved on as in recent election,they elected same faces which had media as well as court trials.
its time to stabilize .lets see who rather which institution comes forward.
long boots are not going to come this year.so don't consider that an option.
political planning is going on.
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Man proposes and God Disposes.

In current situation, it can be modified as;

Law proposes and Zardari Disposes.

same happened in Raiz Sheikh case and might happen in coming cases as well. This is not the ideal situation as guilty persons should resign themseleves if they have any respact for the law.
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The President Zardari has exercised his constitutional power to safeguard his right hand. Now mr,convicted has no moral grounds even constitutional to continue as minister or senator. Lets see how long mr,zardari can defend his indefensible blue eyed friends.
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Yes it is true that Interior minister has been provided the relief. And if anyone forcasts the Long Boots to come out of barraks it will b a vry hazy forcast, because if the President has some powers to do something then no one has the right to middle in his powers.... And it should b noted that these sort of powers are exercised just fr friends and never fr foes....
It is also true that morally it seems shaky bt in politics and in national intrest morals are justified by the means....
What would be the impact of ths decission on our political atmosphare??? Plz discusses it....
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so one can say that house is open for even a common man to approach superior court in certain case as though the power has been exercised but again the purpose of law has been that certain powers must be exercised in certain manner as what seems acceptable to rationale of human being so if certain power has been exercised in his favourite's power than why it has not been exercised in case of common innocent person.so lets see if a common man can stand against that very exercise of power and if can knock the door of the supreme authority to get the same relaxation for their loved ones already behind the bars......

is it EQUALITY BEFORE LAW......as provided by our Constitution1973?????
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Law is equal for all. ( but only on paper)

lets see who get punished by court and pardoned by president next time.
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@Miss Ein...
If the constitution has provided such powers to our President( He might b anyone),then it z in his sole discretion to exercise those powers.
And in our country the main issue is the way of criticism.....
we all just kno to criticism others and especially the people in power.
we should notice that wht is in our national interests...
If such orders & punishments are sentenced then hw will the government work and wht will b the credibility of such government?
We cannt afford such kind of mishaps in current scenario coz already our nation is plunged in grave crises...
Its true that all of the people are equal before law and it has been proved by our courts that the interior minister z nt provided a concession.Now if some powers exist in the hands of the President to exercise in his favour then no one has the right to criticize him...
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The President Zardari has exercised his sacred constitutional powers to protect his abettor. Mr. President is well acquainted with conditions of prisoner because he was also guest in prisons for many years, now President should issue an ordinance and release all the prisoners.

Anyhow Mr. Gillani and Zardari know well about the bias attitude of courts in their tough time when their applications were set aside, their requests ignored, unnecessary and intentional delay in their cases, victamization by courts, these events are unforgettable for them. Where were these courts when Mr. Gillani was in prison without any crime?
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The president has use his constitutional power to condone the sentence of the LH court against Rehman Malik. Though it seems legal for a president to exercise his power but the usage is rather more impractical, irrational and biased. Would any of you expect the president to use the same power for some ordinary person like one of us. I believe he will not, not because he can’t but rather due to his biasness.

The powers granted to the president through the constitution are immoral, dissipated and irrational itself. Why should anyone be permissible to reduce /condone sentenced punishment of a criminal proved guilty. I don’t want to live in the heaven of unwise by assuming any idle environment but it seemed to be very cheap on high moral ground which at least should not be expected from rural of a Muslim country.


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Anyhow Mr. Gillani and Zardari know well about the bias attitude of courts in their tough time when their applications were set aside, their requests ignored, unnecessary and intentional delay in their cases, victamization by courts, these events are unforgettable for them. Where were these courts when Mr. Gillani was in prison without any crime?
Any wrong cannot justify the means of any other flawed. If the biasness, victimization, ignorance and domination of previous courts were immoral, corrupted and dishonest so do the sloppiness and disdain act of president, & Prime minister if involved. They are taking these provocative & detrimental measure to thwarting up the courts and to concoct an environment so that they can try to prove the partiality of the courts. They failed to deliver what were promised to the nations and now they want a reason to conceal their incompetence and believe that it can be achieved by blaming the current judiciary. They are planning to go in public and confess that they were unable to deliver because the politicized judiciary never allow them to work independently. However, the current independent judiciary are closely monitoring their moves and will respond accordingly.
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