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:@samina naz

the two biggest Problems of pakistan are
1) Corruption
2)religious fanatism(bigotry)

Corruption is the mother of all problems.here i have some suggestions which would help to root out these problems.

1) independent NAB (its higher officials should be appointed by and independent commision or board of Governers)
2) independent judiciary
3) life imprisonment or death sentence for corruption (as in china)
4) FIA should work under NAB.
5) All records in Public sector should be computerised.
6) All heads of public sector Organizations(ie PIA,steel mills, PTCL etc ) should be appointed by independent commision or board of governers.
7) minimun 10% of GDP should be alloted to education.
8) STATE agencies should be given a task to take action against the corrupt(ISI has political wing , its anti corruption wing should established)
9)overseas Pakistanis should be encouraged and provided facilities to invest in their homeland.NO PAKISTANI national should be allowed to build,buy property land etc without prior STATE permission.

and many more but time shortage
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friends i just want to ask from my youth ,why we r not think about our beloved country ,as you people are seeing that how corrupt people destroying it .cant we do nothing for it ? we got pakistan for that purpose where no body have right to get theri rights and good enough facilities /
ALASS! it is hsamefull for all of us .as you knws whts going on in our country. how funny jailers who have sepnt 10 yesr ,5 years in jail ,they r ruling us .
if goverment will sustain for 2 years more then , i hope there will no paksitan on map of the world in next one or two years.
plz do somthing plzzzzzz plzzzzzzzz .awak up put on your belts and safe paksitan . i m with you


Yes, samina naz. You think we would wake up and save pakistan? that has happened alot of times,dont you see those people standing on the road shouting with board?wont we do the same.
Obviously thats all we can do,otherwise if we do more we would die. and dont forget if the governer of punjab,benazir bhutto,and people with high security can die. then how can ordinary people like us be safe? point is that the government does'nt want people or ANYBODY to change pakistan,because just like in the old history.. now they are eating money from taxes and other ways, so when the government is like that,the people. everyone! then whats the use of trying. we're not even united; one would accept to come forward and change pakistan,but the others would say 'we dont wanna die!! -_-
Theres no justice here,i've cried and tried to do something.. but its just no use Our poor nation is left abondoned on thier own and hoping for God to help them.

And as for the youth,Majority of youngsters belong to poor or middle class. I guess most of them would end up being criminals. Why? because when everything becomes unaffordable; they cant eat or feed their beloved ones and they end up robbing,stealing' to feed them,just like those suicide bombers,they die for their family and their family gets money by those people who tell the bomber to kill someone. They are not bad people,they are just 'majboor'.

Just becuase of this, poor innocent people end up and even child abused children,become bitterest criminals and enemies of their own country. Poor little teenagers are blamed and taken to jail,tortured badly and beaten mercilessly.
What can you expect from us then? yes. they also put on that belt to take revenge,but being provoked they become monsters!
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@ Samina

Your feelings for the country are very genuine and most of the youth think like you and looking for CHANGE. The problem is that majority (Youth) has no say in the matters of Government. The government is run by elected representative of the people, and the people that goes to polling stations select their reps and we the youth stay at home and enjoy our time in different entertainments.
So Please next time cast your precious vote and bring change in the system through better reps of the population. I am sure if all people or around 70-80% people cast their votes, the present politicians will perish for ever and new breed will emerge to change the destiny of our nation.
(Currently only 45% people cast votes)
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:@samina naz

the two biggest Problems of pakistan are
1) Corruption
2)religious fanatism(bigotry)

Corruption is the mother of all problems.here i have some suggestions which would help to root out these problems.

1) independent NAB (its higher officials should be appointed by and independent commision or board of Governers)
2) independent judiciary
3) life imprisonment or death sentence for corruption (as in china)
4) FIA should work under NAB.
5) All records in Public sector should be computerised.
6) All heads of public sector Organizations(ie PIA,steel mills, PTCL etc ) should be appointed by independent commision or board of governers.
7) minimun 10% of GDP should be alloted to education.
8) STATE agencies should be given a task to take action against the corrupt(ISI has political wing , its anti corruption wing should established)
9)overseas Pakistanis should be encouraged and provided facilities to invest in their homeland.NO PAKISTANI national should be allowed to build,buy property land etc without prior STATE permission.

and many more but time shortage
These are good things to be implemented.but who will do them If government is corrupt.this government is not sincere its just there to spent five years and nothing.it has no programe of reforms.it has dropped the plan of amending blasphemy law by just one or two rallies from mullahs.first it went on knees during nizam.e.adl or sharia implementation on the orders of those mullahs who are killing us and killing our army.our government didn't cared that it is terrorists with whom they are dealing not those who love sharia or islam.
This government is failed.in every aspect.and it needs a wake up call.it needs serious jotting.some thing out of the blue to scare the hell out of them.
for once just for once in the history of our country we need to do away with these rascals.to save our coming generation from slavery.Slavery of these guys who are being groomed in Europe and in hidden safe chambers of their homes.we dont want them.We dont want to become their slaves.

We have just one option.that is complete annihilation.voting isn't going to change any thing.the need is to fix the heads of our ruling class.
by God the solution only lies in genocide...murder at large scale..assasination..carnage...decimation..extermi nation..slaughter...mass murder of politicians of this country..
we must sacrifice some people to begin a new.i want to make this country a zero meter country..absolutely new with no connection with corrupt past.annihilation of politicians will serve as a lesson for future politicians.
call me anarchist..but we need a revolution..some bloody revolution..

By God I'm waiting for that Roman Holiday when my gladiators will break the doors of parliament to do what is best..to spread the message of terror in the heart of those who love to rule us who love to slave us..who love to wreck all sorts of troubles on us.

After going through this painful experience we will begin things a new.to start all over again..with lessons learnt our politicians will not dare to do corruptions and all sorts of crimes..french revolution is the example when they cut down the heads of ruling elite..to remind them that oppressed masses are nothing less than death angels for rulers..

Time to become Death Angels my fellows..To decide who to kill and how to kill in our own hands..And then they will realize the the powers of masses.
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These are good things to be implemented.but who will do them If government is corrupt.this government is not sincere its just there to spent five years and nothing.it has no programe of reforms.it has dropped the plan of amending blasphemy law by just one or two rallies from mullahs.first it went on knees during nizam.e.adl or sharia implementation on the orders of those mullahs who are killing us and killing our army.our government didn't cared that it is terrorists with whom they are dealing not those who love sharia or islam.
This government is failed.in every aspect.and it needs a wake up call.it needs serious jotting.some thing out of the blue to scare the hell out of them.
for once just for once in the history of our country we need to do away with these rascals.to save our coming generation from slavery.Slavery of these guys who are being groomed in Europe and in hidden safe chambers of their homes.we dont want them.We dont want to become their slaves.

We have just one option.that is complete annihilation.voting isn't going to change any thing.the need is to fix the heads of our ruling class.
by God the solution only lies in genocide...murder at large scale..assasination..carnage...decimation..extermi nation..slaughter...mass murder of politicians of this country..
we must sacrifice some people to begin a new.i want to make this country a zero meter country..absolutely new with no connection with corrupt past.annihilation of politicians will serve as a lesson for future politicians.
call me anarchist..but we need a revolution..some bloody revolution..

By God I'm waiting for that Roman Holiday when my gladiators will break the doors of parliament to do what is best..to spread the message of terror in the heart of those who love to rule us who love to slave us..who love to wreck all sorts of troubles on us.

After going through this painful experience we will begin things a new.to start all over again..with lessons learnt our politicians will not dare to do corruptions and all sorts of crimes..french revolution is the example when they cut down the heads of ruling elite..to remind them that oppressed masses are nothing less than death angels for rulers..

Time to become Death Angels my fellows..To decide who to kill and how to kill in our own hands..And then they will realize the the powers of masses.

So what YOU have decided Gul whom you are gonna kill and how?

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so far i understand, you want to remove the present government.so you want civil disobedience,anarchy.....Okay government gone ..then what ?
All of us know that the present government is the most the most corrupt government. Supreme court should play its role..agar en logo k amal namay kholay jain to there would not be a single person who would qualify to be the member of parliament..According to 1973 constitution they dont qualify..as its very clearly mentioned:
Provisions as to Members of [63][Majlis-e-Shoora (Parliament)]
62. Qualifications for membership of Majlis-e-Shoora (Parliament):
(1) A person shall not be qualified to be elected or chosen as a member of Majlis-e-Shoora (Parliament) unless-
(d) he is of good character and is not commonly known as one who violates Islamic Injunctions;
(e) he has adequate knowledge of Islamic teachings and practises obligatory duties prescribed by Islam as well as abstains from major sins ;
(f) he is sagacious, righteous and non-profligate, honest and ameen, there being no declaration to the contrary by a court of law;
(g) he has not, after the establishment of Pakistan, worked against the integrity of the country or opposed the ideology of Pakistan.

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then Caretaker government a jay...The most patriot honest devoted passionate Pakistanis..and it should remain not for 3 months but for 2.3 years to put things in a right way.
Things would become better...and then election and every thing...
But more important thing is that we should improve ourselves as muslims and as a nation so that we don't vote for such corrupt people again..




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Just forget everything and teach your Children to be corruption free, and try to treat everyone as Pakistani (No Muslim, no Hindu, no Parsi, no Christian, no minority, no cast, no creed and no socially stratified nationals).
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The posts of Samina Naz and Gul Niazi shows the changing pattern of thinking of our youth who are fed up with the current system. This thought pattern shows that time is ripe for change but we have to decide wheather the change has to come in a peaceful or violent manner.
For example, one segment of our society (Talibans and their allies) are trying to bring change by force through violence and bloodshed. Are they going to be successful in their efforts ? Certainly not. Similarly, we are not going to be successful in our efforts by adopting violent ways of behaviour. The civilized and constitutional way of change is VOTE and lets exercise it whenever the need arise.
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