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Take note of some facts before sensing out anything: Qadafi has already started his demagoguery of crusades, there are reports that scores of Libyan civilians are standing at key installations to provide human shields against an air strike, allies are doing aerial attacks at the time when loyalist forces are pushing the rebel forces back in ground offensives, and last but not least, the UNSC resolution was passed in absentia of two major powers China and Russia and now they are demanding a halt or receding in aerial attacks by allies.
Facts are there, sensible thinking goes for everyone ... Its a win win situation for the allies,, if the rebels win they will say it was due to our help, and if the case is otherwise, well Qadafi had already bowed down before them.... |
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What about Western Block? Divergence of interest also exist in case of western block, but they are united against Muslim Countries. unfortunately, OIC failed to protect interest of Muslim Countries only because of some Western agents(mostly Arab Dictators & self centered politicians),but it does not mean that Muslim Ummah does not exist? NATO is there military alliance & Turkey is its part & Pakistan is Non-NATO ally of US . I think we lost more than what we gained. Remember the principle, "United we stand divided we fall" Islam is not the religion of Rituals. Iqbal said, Nikal kay khan kahoon say Ada ker rasm-e-shabiri ( Wake up & follow the Path of Hussain,the Lord of Martyrs) Quote:
( momin can fight without sword) They invaded Afghanistan ,than destroyed Iraq,created hindrance in the resolution of Palestine & Kashmir issue, banned scarf in France ,Made caricature of Prophet(SAWW) in the name of Freedom ,yet we consider them our Friend. I know, Diplomacy is an art of saying "nice doggie" unless you find a rock. Muslim Block can use oil as a rock as it used in 1973.Iran shifted its trade from Dollar ,than why not other Oil rich Muslim Countries? I think you will be aware of the principle of "Collective Bargaining". Western Block is pursuing the policy of divide & rule. Islam Opposes sectarian,ethnic, regional & all kinds of other divisions. Western Agents( Arab Dictators & Corrupt Politicians) will Inshah Allah ,lick the dust. Inshah Allah, the day is very near ,when Muslim Ummah will rule the world. I am optimist about the future of Muslim Ummah. Muslim Unity Zindabaad! Pakistan Zindabaad!
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I completely agree with your arguments but think over it that what results dug out in the name oft revolution in Egypt, Tunisia and where such change brought? Of course nothing but only change of faces.
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Western Countries are silent Because Bahrain is a base of 5th US Fleet. Saudi Arabia & Bahrain are western allies too Libya exports oil to Europe formerly oil refineries were owned by British & French governments. I am not supporting Qadafi
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what is meant by no-fly zone?
someone plz elaborate
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No-fly zone means "air space where no aircraft can fly"
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Word of advice: Mend your own house before thinking of helping anyone else. History has shown that these very same muslim nations you talk about have been never helped us or have been contributed least. Just take a look at the recent floods Therefore yeah 180 millions Pakistanis couldn't care less how many Libyans die. Its not our problem Btw I am expecting another 'feel good' speech from you. Don't disappoint me |
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The above comments carry their own weight and point to different worthy opinions. But hardly has anyone ANALYZED the specific interests of NATO states in Libya. Politics is less about official relations and more about ulterior motives- usually economic if we are to study the past. Not that I have personally come to a complete conclusion either, but my point is, Egyptian paramilitary forces had also clashed with the public with 100-150 being killed and their jets were also flying low over urban centers. Why Libya? It sounds too good to be true that the Arab world has suddenly 'woken up' to progress and in a sweeping chain of events, it encapsulates all the states! Wake up, and smell the coffee guys!
What for instance, is the problem with the Bahrainis? Its one of the most richest countries in the world with a per capita income of $38000. Pakistanis live on less than $1100, Indians on $3300, and China on $4500. So what is irking them? That they get to eat Puk cheese spread while their neighbor gets to eat Italian Parmeggiano? They get to drive a simple Honda Accord while the other guy drives around in Escelade? Hardly calls for a revolution. Jab pait bhara hua hota hai, toh koi sarak pe nahi nikalta larne marne ke liye. Unless someone is pulling the trigger. Back to Libya, Gaddhafi had previously threatened to snatch away the oil excavation rights from US and Euro companies and give them to Asian ones. So Obama retaliated by threatening to impose sanctions on Libya- something the energy lobby opposed because it doesnt serve them well. They instead have a track record of riding on UN's back to arrive at solutions- which it skillfully did too by first imposing a No-fly zone. Of course no self-respecting state adheres to international pressure in domestic politics and Libya did the same although it overtly accepted the ceasefire solution. The Security Council then kicked in the 'collective security' tool which it caters to only selectively and ignores when it serves their purpose. Oil and gas is just part of the deal, because Libya has only 2% of world's reserves. The big picture is that NATO has some sinister motives upcoming for the middle-east (what exactly, I cant tell accurately and that needs some more unfolding) and it involves a complete control of the region. Is it any wonder that all these states happen to surround Israel? Israel has always had plans for a greater Israel, which it wants to materialize in near future. All other dictators didnt pose too big of a nuisance. Gaddhafi did and then began the arm-twisting. Given the above, it is intellectually fatal and naive to suggest that Pakistan has too many problems and need not worry about others. When will we start troubleshooting? When marauding armies stand at our gates? Or worse, that a US-triggered revolution happens to wreck havoc inside our territory. |
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Wake me up the day when Muslim Ummah starts rulling the World
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