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You want to look for lawyer on this site? You are mistaken. CSS Forum is not for this purpose.

Sane observers are already aware of the threads where members have voiced their concerns about FPSC policies.
Can any one please guide me right thread in this forum, where FPSC is being criticised?
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yeah he has insulted HEC n those currently studying abroad.But it was his personal opinion.he can say what he likes.competent people n deserving people need no certificate from ordinary n irrelevant people.Their worth will be proved when they will compete with local people.preference to foreign degree holder ko milti hai..becaz of their professional training.agey rozi deny ka Allah malik hai..thousand mein milti hai ya lac's mein.
n these bureaucrat...sari umar office files mein hi guzrey gi...saath mein corruption ki halaal kamai as well...so enjoy bro's.you need not feel jealous since you will be earning more than our Ph.D degree holders..good luck.
n secondly I think every sound educationist is writing against this devolution even Dr.A.Q.Khan.so I think his words are sufficient to shut the mouths of these people.
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Just a little while ago, LI warned French. Did you miss that part or you want to be warned individually?
French warned by Last island, Gulrukh warned by Andrew Dufrence.
Well done.

Anyone who will raise voice to save HEC will be warned.
Dr qadir has also written a column in favour of HEC in the news. Who will warn him?
Possible he did not write on this forum otherwise he also gets warning.
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French warned by Last island, Gulrukh warned by Andrew Dufrence.
Well done.

Anyone who will raise voice to save HEC will be warned.
Dr qadir has also written a column in favour of HEC in the news. Who will warn him?
Possible he did not write on this forum otherwise he also gets warning.
No offense, But If I may ask, how old are you, my friend?
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HEC has just doled out scholarships to incapable and incompetent masters degree holders. The generosity in the funding it received was unjustified.

Its good if it is being scrutinised and being devolved. I know many people who, thanks to HEC, are getting 300,000+ and deserve only 30,000.
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HEC is not a pure organization, no organization is pure. I would like to utilize the liberty of criticizing any organization in limits and will therefore agree with nauman.

French & Gulrukh, kindly come up with a more open and logical answer as to what benefit will the DMG get from doing this.
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aap gulrukh lo logical answer ka keh rahe ho. It is good.
But tell me aik CSS paas nauman ki baat main aap ko kon si logic nazar ae jai? HE says HEC selects most incompetent staff and scholarship holders? Can any one belive this is said by a CSP officer?


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In this condition when all HEC funds will be chanalised through bureaucracy.
aik professor se ziada aik peon kamaye ja DMG group ka. So please inform on this forum when such peon posts will be advertised, so that at least extra educated bandoon ka to koi faida ho. Kuch kamain to sahi.
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aap gulrukh lo logical answer ka keh rahe ho. It is good.
But tell me aik CSS paas nauman ki baat main aap ko kon si logic nazar ae jai? HE says HEC selects most incompetent staff and scholarship holders? Can any one belive this is said by a CSP officer?
My dear friend, I asked you too for a logical answer. However, You have misunderstood what nauman said. He did not said HEC selects "Most Incompetent staff and scholarship holders" he said that most of them get more than what they deserve, that does not mean they are completely Incompetent. I do agree with him though, 2 of my friends who were rejected from an International scholarship, received HEC scholarship and it was as easy as a piece of cake for them. Trust me, HEC scholarships are not too difficult to get, you don't have to be extra ordinary. I am not insulting the current scholarship holders and neither did nauman meant to do that im sure but think out of the box, try to see where this is going.



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In this condition when all HEC funds will be chanalised through bureaucracy.
aik professor se ziada aik peon kamaye ja DMG group ka. So please inform on this forum when such peon posts will be advertised, so that at least extra educated bandoon ka to koi faida ho. Kuch kamain to sahi.
No comments because I did not understand a single word, rephrase maybe.
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All HEC Schoarships are merit based

Mathematically, it is true. But let me clarify. In Pakistan, veterinary sciences attract the bottom most of students (You can not prove me wrong on this). However, HEC gave dozens of scholarships to Veterinary doctors for PhD. Since they competed among themselves, many of them got the scholarships since their quota had to be filled, somehow or the other. If those people were competent or hardworking in the first place, they would not have gone for bachelors in veterinary sciences from Pakistan. Sending them to scholarships in large numbers is a wastage in my humble opinion.

This country can not progress on the basis of PhDs alone. We first have to strengthen our primary education, before being over-generous with taxpayers money on tertiary education.

I hope you guys now know what I meant.

Secondly, I know HEC is/waas paying around 3 lacs per month to certain professors, under something called tenure track system.

Lastly, I criticized HEC on basis of my knowledge, interaction with scholarship holders, and the access to records I have as a state auditor. But, whosoever in the above posts has blamed me for corruption has neither of the above mentioned reasons to accuse me of being corrupt.

I want an unqualified apology from him/her, whatever his/her name is. If characters like him are given carte-blanche to utter whatever comes in their 'mind', people will stop contributing to this forum.

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Bhai jaan koi aqal ho hath mareen.. HEC 3 lac to professor ko b nahin deti? Pata nahin aap kise jante hain jo 30 hazar ki bajai, 3 lac lai raha hai.

All HEC scholarships are merit based. Not even 1% sifarish or nepotism, to be very sure about it.
For foreign HEc scholarships, HEC organises GRE general test, Top scored candidates are called for interviews by eminent professors of different countries for which scholarships are offered. Further students are short listed on basis of their academic record. So mixing all these criterias, final cream of students are sent abroad for higher studies on state expenses to serve Pakistan after their studies. 98% of the students complete their studies from abroad universities successively. Are they incompetent? .

And You are saying, HEC gave sholarships to incompetent people? IS it not insult of 4000 PhD scholars abroad? Mind your language and bureautic attitude please.

Such DMG s dictator minded attituded has now destroyed HEC to eat funds of HEC by bureaucrats. At least in HEC, there is merit......
By the way, I did engineering from NUST. Its somewhere in top 300 universities of the world. Where do the universities in China, Austria etc that HEC sends students to, fall in the ranking?
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biased n jealous approach.
What would I be jealous of ?? I do not want to brag, but you have forced me to. I got 1370 in GRE and 280 in TOEFL in 2006, and was offered a Fulbright Scholarship for 2 year masters in US but I declined the offer since I had to join Civil Services Academy, Lahore.

HEC scholarship was something far too easier to get at that time.
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Nauman, calm down and let it go. If anyone apologizes himself/herself, than that's something acceptable but a forced apology is not worth it. Forgive him for what he said and move on, don't take things so seriously. This is JUST the Internet
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Nauman is a CSS officer, so he has bureaucratic approach. May be wo bi HEC ke funds per nazar rakhte hoon.
pocket money kise achi nahin lagti?

education to bas ayashi hai aaj kal ke daur main logon ki?????Gareeb kuon aisi ayashian krte phireen,,,,,,,,
Is there any criterion for becoming a senior member? I guess it is the ability to make wanton remarks that helps in your case, French. French, whatever you said is downright stupidity and a moral failure on your part.

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