Have you people ever read "Hummod ur Rehman commission report" besides a lot of other available literature about the Bangladesh debacle? My suggestion to you is that please do some homework before just jumping into the discussions.

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The political history of Pakistan from 1947 to 1970 witnessed no general elections. Thus, when Yahya's Regime decided to hold the first general elections on the basis of adult franchise at national level, they were not only required to make a new mechanism but were also required to set up a permanent election machinery.Twenty four political parties participated in the elections. They were allowed to begin their election campaigns from January 1, 1970. The public meetings of Awami League in Bengal and Pakistan Peoples Party in the Punjab and Sindh attracted huge crowds. Awami League mobilized support on the basis of its Six-Points Program, which was the main attraction in the party's manifesto. While Z. A. Bhutto's personality, his socialistic ideas and his slogan of "Rotti, Kapra aur Makan", meaning food, clothing and shelter, were the factors that contributed to the popularity of Pakistan Peoples Party. The rightist parties raised the religious slogans, while the leftists raised slogans based on regional and communistic ideas.



why mujib and zia could not reconciled??

1. zulfiqar ali bhutto was socialist and his aim was to established socilaist regime that was based on the true model of USSR WHRER AS mujib wanted to parliamentary system ---- a true and pure form of democarcy .i wonder why people side zulfiqar ? Just bevause he was a civillian dictator....
2. what was the problem if defense and and foreign affairs would be in the hand of federal govt and it was divided into confederation .At least we would have no begladesh
3. economic disparities and cultural deprivation which had ignited the public of east pakistan at that time

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Indian version of Hamood ur Rehman Commission report? Now this is something new to me. I have never heard about it. Please shed some light on it and enhance our knowledge about this. And let me correct you that Hamoodur Rahman retained his Pakistani citizenship even after the war and independence of Bangladesh. He was not Bangladeshi as said by you. My suggestion is still same that do some study regarding this issue. Moreover, try to think positively also. It was just a gentle suggestion which you perceived as a shut up call. Its not a hard and fast rule that one should do home work before discussing anything but it is always good to do so. I agree this forum is for learning but I am sorry to say your tone is not as it should be of a learner so thats why I said you that if you are here to argue then do some home work first. No hard feelings.

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Dear Members,

Be careful, you people are getting aggressive.

These things lead to the personal attacks. Avoid it.

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@usman cheema:

1-Have you yourself read that report?
2-Where did you get the original report?
3-If some how you managed to read the volumeII of that report, what does it say?
4-It recommended a string of court-martials and trials against top officers, did that happen, despite Gen. Niazi seeking it?
5-At whose instigation was it prepared?
6-What happened afterwards, who benefited from that report?
7-At whom were all the charges pinned on?

The lady said so for that report was published in an Indian magazine in 2000, before it could be published in Pakistan.

ZAB, is the real culprit, he should have taken the rape for all the convicts.for he:

1- (being a foreign minister) Procrastinated approaching UNSC, had he reached there in time, the war could have ended far earlier, we could have avoided the humiliation. Agar wo lala waqt par pohnch jata tau na surrender karna parta aur na kuch aur.aur pohnch ke jazabat main aa k jang bandi ki file phar di. uskay jazbati hone ka khamyaza aaj tak bhugat tahe hain ham.

2- Ne bewafuf banaya pakistani awam ko, usne pakistani awam ko India k sath hazar saal jang karne ka wada kia agar usay jitwa dia jaye. Aur amreeka k sath dushmani peda ki (jo agar che hamara dushman hi hai), ta k logon k dil jeet sake. usne west pakistan ko in 2 chezon pe bewakuf banaya, aur mujeeb ne Bhola cyclone aur economic disparities ko waja bana k pakistan ka bera gharq kia.

3- Uska real face ye hai,
‪A Khan: Z A Bhutto's Fascist Regime‬‏ - YouTube

4- He hated bangalis, I have posted a video in one of my posts some times ago, jis main wo sour ke bache kehta hai bangalis ko.

above highlighted line is copy paste ..now i can say u have done some homework????
if this is some thing new then do not go for advice .how u perceived i am here without homework .plz give me reference .no one speak without some knowledge but it scale vary person to person.if u r more learned and more efficient in working then plz give ur worthy knowledge .actually i really needed it . so if u said it positively ,then u should not said like that .yes if there needs some correction .u r appreciated sir!!

Hamoodur Rahman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

copy paste mateial;

Hamoodur Rahman began his career as a lawyer in Calcutta High Court in 1938. He was a councillor of the Calcutta Corporation (1940) and Deputy Mayor of Calcutta (1943). Hamoodur Rahman was a member of the Junior Standing Counsel of the province of Bengal from 1943 to 1947. After the independence of Pakistan he opted for East Pakistan and came to Dhaka in 1948. He was appointed Advocate General of East Pakistan in 1953 and held it till 1954 when he was elevated to the bench as a judge of the Dhaka High Court.Justice Hamoodur Rahman was a judge of the Dhaka High Court from 1954 to 1960 and vice chancellor of Dhaka University from November 1958 to December 1960. Hamoodur Rahman was appointed a judge of the Supreme Court of Pakistan in 1960, and was made Chief Justice of Pakistan in 1968 and retired in 1976. Hailed from East-Pakistan, Hamoodur Rahman retained his Pakistani citizenship even after the war and independence of Bangladesh


retained..................
if u will born in pakistan an gain US nationality .ur citzenship will not changed.he was pakistani bengladehsi jurist..
now i am out of discussion. because some members wanted to create mess here.. i have entered in to ths thread before u but no such comments i have received as u r learned member so stay here

The War Inquiry Commission was appointed by the President of Pakistan in December 1971. The report was never made public in PakistanNo action was ever taken based on this report, the report was classified and its publication disallowed at the time. General Yahya Khan died in 1980, but some of his key colleagues were living in retirement on pensions as of 2000.[8] Parts of the report were leaked and published in Indian magazine India Today in August 2000

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Napoleon used both, he was known as a master tactician. Also, Even If he believed in what you say, then wasn't he the same guy who tried to commit suicide after a shameless defeat in the "battle of nations" ? eh



1 - China and turkey compared to how many others? Do the math. I said exceptions can be found, they can be found anywhere and in anything but the general rule is against what you are suggesting and majority of the successes are democracies

2 - Dictatorships tend to not respect human life, china is EXTREMELY intolerant to human life and it is one of the worst offenders of human rights violations on earth.

3 - There is some truth to this that the united states of america does support dictatorships but you are wrong about them not being indigenous, It supports indigenous dictatorships .. they are poor because they are dictatorships.. indigenous or not does not matter

4 - Furthermore, The coalition you are suggesting will be a disaster. The role of army is not to play politics but to defend the borders and protect our sovereignty and ensure that it's not violated but sadly they have failed to do their core and constitutional duties so far.

I never said hitler was a maniac, I was only trying to say how hitler destroyed his own country by ruling with an iron fist and the ways you are suggesting. If you think of him as a role model then there's nothing I can say to move you.

I disagree. You cannot come up with a better system with all your Ideas and efforts better than what is suggested by God. By saying things like "Minor adjustments to accommodate for modern times" you are directly challenging the wisdom of God. What he designed was a perfect model for past, today and for times to come. However, We don't live in an Islamic state and hence the khalifat system cannot be Implemented here.

Nothing of the above is likely to happen as long as democracy is not given a chance. True democracy will only come when Army stops interfering in politics and stop playing games and do honestly what they are paid for and what their constitutional duties demand them to do

Carry on!!!

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Ok, thanks for the Information however how is this related to the topic we are currently discussing?


It wasn't zab not agreeing or agreeing with awami that caused the division of Pakistan, It was Indeed the shameless acts and war crimes of our army that caused it.

Now you say that the commission was biased because hamood was bangali? Now such things make me laugh and think why don't people use common sense. I am extremely sorry but have you read the complete report? YES INDEED THE REPORT WAS BIASED BECAUSE IT MENTIONED MUCH LESSER NUMBER OF RAPES, MURDERS AND TORTURES THAN THE INTERNATIONAL FIGURES. LOLOL. If hamood was a bangali, why the commission challenged the numbers and Indirectly went against Bangladeshi point of view? If hamood was favoring bangladeshis, he should have mentioned figures much higher of killings and rapes but he did not. Also, he was not ALONE in the commission, don't you know this? Furthermore, the war crimes our army committed was such a big truth that even our own commission couldn't hide it .. they had to admit it, although they mentioned a lesser number so yeah you can say the report was biased but it wasn't favoring Bangladesh it was biased for someone else heh

Also why do you want to Ignore countless International reports and figures blaming Pakistani army for all this? It's an open secret and everyone knows this :/

there are lambeyyyy lambeyyyyyyyyyy paragraphs, which i didnt even read,

im commenting only on the topic, demo i snot for country like PK

just answer me

WHETHER ALL ISLAMIC STATE DID VOTE TO HAZRAT ABU BAKAR, HAZRAT UMER, OR EVEN HAZRAT ALI?

no

it was only that SHURA, which finalised the name,

the democracy which is prevailed now a days, its not ISLAMIC FORM

KHALIFA was ruler of ISLAMIC STATE, he was SIPAH SALAAR TOO

u can see it like this, ruler was SIPAH SALAAR

or SIPAH SALAAR was ruler of ISLAMIC STATE too

this current democracy is introduced by JEWS

and they themselves says, its a BULL SHIT

just to create a favourable govt for u

there's a long history of it

i hope u all have got my point