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well i think Next Election will produce good results...now the youth has realized and intend to take part in today politics, everyone is now keen about the situation and circumstances which now Pakistan is facing....I think we will get better democracy in the next election...and in the last always hope for the best...
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Democracy: progress and pitfalls
Underlying the formal framework of democracy in Pakistan is a rent-based institutional structure that maintains a coalition of elites. The rents (unearned incomes) are systematically generated for the elites on the basis of excluding the majority of the people from competition in both the economic and political spheres. Until recently, the predominance of the military within the elite coalition, while it gave a semblance of political stability, created a hitherto unresolved contradiction between a formal democracy and the actual politics of authoritarianism. At the same time, the military-dominated power structure prevented the institutional changes in the economy that were necessary to achieve sustained economic growth — such as a process that requires inclusion of a wide range of citizens rather than only a few, in the process of investment, competition, efficiency, innovation and hence sustained productivity growth.
The tenure of the current elected government has been marked by an intense contention for turf amongst the main organs of the state: the executive, parliament, the military and the judiciary. This political turbulence and the associated institutional instability, signifies a reconfiguration of the elite coalition. This dialectic of power has created the possibility of achieving a new balance within the state structure that corresponds in practice to the balance stipulated in the Constitution. Five key institutional changes have occurred in recent years which could enable Pakistan to tread more firmly on the path to democracy: (1) The citizens’ movement led by the lawyers — unprecedented in its intensity, sacrifice and geographic coverage — served to restore the judiciary. In so doing, the movement helped establish the norm that the people of Pakistan are willing to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution. (2) The heroic initiative by Mohtarama Benazir Bhutto in the face of obvious danger to her life, of launching a campaign against the military dictatorship of General Pervez Musharraf. In sacrificing her life for democracy she joined the pantheon of martyrs whose memory inspires the resolve of the people to defend their freedom. Such great sacrifices permeate into the collective consciousness and folklore of the people, and hence irrigate the organic growth of democracy. (3) The passage of the Eighteenth Amendment rectified the distortions introduced in the Constitution by successive military governments to facilitate the overthrow of elected civilian governments. (4) The emergence of an independent judiciary with a spine whose strength was drawn from the will of the people. The Supreme Court began to hold to account not only the incumbent government for corruption and malfeasance, but through its power of suo motu strove to protect the rights of citizens who had been abducted by various security agencies. It publicly scrutinised a case in which the ISI had allegedly funded opposition political parties, and it castigated elements in the military establishment who had stepped outside the law. Such dispensation of justice without fear or favour has helped to achieve a new balance between various organs of the state in accordance with the Constitution. (5) The perceived threat of destabilisation of the elected government by the military, following the so-called ‘memogate’ affair, was successfully overcome in a historic face-off between the prime minister and the military. As the people of Pakistan build democracy they face two major threats: (1) An economy that within its existing rent-based structure, extracts the fruits of the labour of people for the profligacy of the elites. Consequently while the people are deprived of the minimum conditions of dignified life, public debt has increased to such an unsustainable level that the country faces bankruptcy. (2) The religious extremists pose a threat not only to the way of life of the people of Pakistan, but to its very existence as a state. The response to them is ambivalent: they have apparently penetrated the security apparatus, and won allies amongst some of the right wing political parties. The way democratic forces address these challenges will shape the future of democracy. http://tribune.com.pk/story/381760/d...-and-pitfalls/
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Yes, this democracy can give us better Pakistan. Give some time to the weak democracies, i mean the elected governments. Let the system go on. With the passage of time, the flaws will gradually diminished with the active participation of people. The nation, currently, leading towards democratic point.
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With due respect, I also would like to react to one of my respectable member named Irtika that no body should argue that current PPP government was not being worked as numerous issues were lifted unnecessarily to get it derailed. First of all, in civilised society, it is uncommon that a government is having it foundation to the NRO, MEMO SCANDAL and other fatal and non-fatal scandals. It is unacceptable, however, if it is assumed that these scandals are baseless and have to connection with reality, these core issues should be investigated by autonomous authority, NAB and must be concluded to one way. Furthermore, if the government believed that they could not deliver under these circumstances, they should have resigned, but, they are just enjoying their turn as this turn is unlikely to arrive soon. in sum up, we must blame to culprits and do not stand along with them, we will definitely witness everything in this country whether its matter of democracy to flourish or accountability of corrupts including army men or civilians. |
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Dude i m not an opponent of democracy, but my concern is that democracy is a system designed for good governance , the goal is good governance ... States can progress without democracy but not without good governance. Here we have stůck to democracy bt not to good governance... So this is the reason we have fallen to the depths and chasms of ignorance, lawlessness,burgeoning corruption, dracolian unemployment, future uncertainities, provincial prejudices, hydraheaded militancy at alot more social and administrative anomolies... We are on the verge of destruction, with this sort of governance we are not going to survive even10more years... After 2014, nato withdrawal we wil be in deep waters , no aid, strict sanctions (for american r not so candor ) , rejuvenation of militancy,inedequate resources, heavy burden of debt, insane leadership wil bring us to the end ( god farbade) we should open our eyes we are at nowhere. We should be realistic... We dont have time to develop this pratorian democracy... We at this time need an iron man who can put all the disarray to certain array and set the things right...
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below are the options.... 1- Ayub Khan 2- Yahya Khan 3- Zia-ul-Haq 4- Pervaiz Musharraf If you have any confusion about choosing the best let me remind you their KARNAMAAS.. 1- Tashqand pact 2- fall of dhaka 3- Afghan war, creator of Taaliban 4- Kaargil war, 2nd Afgahn War, Talibanization.. |
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My list of iron men doesn't include them, it comprises of
Peter the great ( father of modern Russia) Fredrick the great ( father of Prussia) otto van Bismarck ( father of moderm Germany) sulaiman the magnificient ( great ottoman sultan) Mustafa kemal ( father of modern turkey ) mao zedong ( father of People's Republic of china) deng xiapeng (father of modern china) lee kuan yuo (father of singapore) dr mahatir mohammad ( chief architect of modern malaysia) and many others they all were iron men for their nations during their reforms they were unpopular among masses becoz their thinking was far ahead of their iliterate countrymen bt they built new nations to rule the contemporary world. We can choose anyone like them. |
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Look at their achievemets for example peter the great transformed bankrupt Russia to a great European power, he modernised his nation , opened scientific universties , worked in shipyard in england himself to learn shipbuilding and commisoned russian navy, procured acess to baltic sea in great northern war , founded saints petersburg and lot more and died while saving a drowning soldier in the sea, he jumped into cold water just to save his countryman and got pneumonia that killed him. He had to sacrifice his own son alexei when he opposed his great reforms... But he transformed medieval feudal Russia to One Great power of Europe. And same sort of stories for others... They were patriotic to their last breath, last heartbeat and to their last drop of blood...
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