Yes, some of his policies were good but there are two sides of a picture, you have mentioned the brighter side but i would also ask you to put some light on the dark one. Please dont ignore his role in the balochistan insurgency! Its was Zia, who called the troops back from balochistan and worked on the peace deals, release nationalist leaders from the jails. He also played his role in retiring seven generals and conferred zia with the post of chief of army. He is responsible of suppressing all the nationalist movements. the loopholes in his policies and the worst conditions of economy led to the army coup my friend. we was unable to uplift the burden of poverty from the masses. I am not against him but this is the true picture and we need not to be biased towards anything.

1) nuclear program was initiated by bhutto. Ìn 1974 , india detonated first nuke... That time jo koi bi pm hota program start krta.
He didn't gave atom bomb just initiated program... Nuke building is the greatest achievement of zia, who built nuke despite strong american opposition, he deceived americans by declaring the freezing of nuclear program, when two pakistani were caught red handed in usa while purchasing an alloy for nuclear bomb, bt in fack n- program was never frozen. He detonated first islamic nuclear bomb in 1985. Now pakistan had nuclear bomb bt no system to deliver it then in procured f-16 from usa.
Nuclear program was started in 76- bhutto hanged in 77 ( in this year only KRL could b built... Rather bhutto brought hurdles when he declared grass kahain gay atom bomb bunaing gay, france retreated her nuclear deal with pakistan... So it is zia who gave pakistan nuclear weapon.
Now let us look at thè darkest side...
1) quaid e awam renounced the majority of people and repudiated rule of majority in 1970 election ( 162 seats NAL vs 83 seats of ppp) and declared udhar tm idhar hum...
And put last nail in the coffin.
2. Torn apart unsc resolution on ceasefire that resulted in the ultimate fall of decca and capture of 93000 troops, that according to GC-3 n instrument of surrender india was obliged to release ...
3) lauched nationalisation - socialism when socialism was on her decline in 1970s - there were protests in eastern europe against communists yokes... Hungarian , polish , czeckoslovakia crisis... Just to break the back bone of capitalistic class against his feudal class. And nation had to pay its cost... Industrial production declined, institution over crowded due to political appointments, efficiency dwindled- and pak economy reached bankrupt status.
3) trigger baluchistan crisis when he dismissed only non-ppp govt of atta ullah mengal and lauched operation against baluch nationals.


Now if breaking of country, not accepting peoples power, demolishing economy and forcing the small province to launch separation movement are the standards of patriotism, then ZAB is the most patriotic figure in pakistan.

About imran khan my post was modified by moderator...
In history, you wil see great men are usually promiscuous eg Robert, then Lord melbourne , then Lord palmerston, and catherine, napolean had affair ,in egypt, with the wife of lieutent and a lot others yet they are the great and greatest figure in the history ... So personal life can't b attached to patriotism... I know imran khan wil not b a big success if he succeeded he can be murdered like umar bin abdul aziz yet he is far better than these demagogues.... Don't you think so?

Brother you are quoting examples from the world where they do everything for their satisfaction, this is islamic state and here our personal life is to be counted, I am just quoting article 62 of the Constitution which is about the qualification of a person to become member of parliament:

62. Qualifications for membership of Majlis-e-Shoora (Parliament):
(1) A person shall not be qualified to be elected or chosen as a member of Majlis-e-Shoora (Parliament) unless-
(a) he is a citizen of Pakistan;
(b) he is, in the case of the National Assembly, not less than twenty -five years of age and is enroled as a voter in any electoral roll in-
(i) any part of Pakistan, for election to a general seat or a seat reserved for non-Muslims; and
(ii) any area in a Province from which she seeks membership for election to a seat reserved for women.
(c) he is, in the case of Senate, not less than thirty years of age and is enrolled as a voter in any area in a Province or, as the case may be, the Federal Capital or the Federally Administered Tribal Areas, from where he seeks membership;
(d) he is of good character and is not commonly known as one who violates Islamic Injunctions;
(e) he has adequate knowledge of Islamic teachings and practises obligatory duties prescribed by Islam as well as abstains from major sins ;
(f) he is sagacious, righteous and non-profligate, honest and ameen, there being no declaration to the contrary by a court of law;

Every one has his arguments for favoured things, but this doesn't mean that one can forcibly convince others to accept his/her liking.
Well I think this thread has been derailed from the actual topic and should be brought on track so that the relative discussion may again be resumed.

In my opinion masses can only bring real democracy, they can have better accountability of the politicians to whom they elect and give them power to rule. So democracy in Pakistan be let to flourish and surely this can give better results.

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what will u say about Allama iqbal's saying about democracy which is " jis jamhuriyat ko tum azadi ki neelm pari samjhte ho, ye zulm o istdlal ka wo deo hai jo paon marta hua aa raha hai. jahan zulm ka ikhtyar ek badshah k pass hota ta jamhuriyat me wo ikhtyar 300 logon k pass hai" democracy is not the solution of our crises. pak ne to progress he dictators k adwaar me ki hai. we need sincere people whose passion. love, determination as well as whole life will be Pakistan.

I donot agree with you dear, dictators have always pushed country towards war and destruction as Ayoob Khan in 1965, Yahya in 1971, zia in afghan war with soviets, Musharaf in war of terror. They worked for the Big Boss infact these made nation salve of the america Bahadur.

Second thing is that sincere and true people will not be sent by GOD, we the people of the pakistan have to elect them, we must use our right and power of vote to bring forward sincere and able people which can foster the development process.

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62. Qualifications for membership of Majlis-e-Shoora (Parliament):
(1) A person shall not be qualified to be elected or chosen as a member of Majlis-e-Shoora (Parliament) unless-
(a) he is a citizen of Pakistan; What about the dual nationality, holding by the current democratic leaders

(d)he is of good character and is not commonly known as one who violates Islamic Injunctions; commonly known to the people of Pakistan as they are most popular with plundering with the wealth of nation. Corruption, nepotism, favouritism, red-tapism.. you name it sir jee.
(e) he has adequate knowledge of Islamic teachings and practises obligatory duties prescribed by Islam as well as abstains from major sins This is one is my favourite. I dont even think they ever offered jumma prayers, and dont mention about the drugs, real estate business they are in.;
(f) he is sagacious, righteous and non-profligate, honest and ameen, there being no declaration to the contrary by a court of law; My GOD, they arent eligible by any course of islamic law. the case is vice versa.

Democracy is good but with these people, its worst then dictatorship. Family politics is no better then dictatorship. I have already mentioned in my earlier posts that this is not democracy people, its just the other way round.

The people with dual nationality should not be allowed to become member of parliament until and unless one withdraws nationality of other country. As they can not be much sincere to the nation while having dual nationality.

Yes, if they are not eligible then the people should come forward and reject them in upcoming elections, here is the big opportunity to select better people instead of looking towards dictators.

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Now we are pretty close to the things. I would say yes, its high time for everyone of us to think about the shaby conditions of this country and choose sincere people, and I must say here that khan is the best option we have. we should give him a chance as choosing the current leaders again would be the biggest blunder in the history of Pakistan. At least, Khan is against corruption and hope he will take enormous steps in alleviating it from the society. Corruption and poverty are the biggest obstacles in way of sustained economic growth.