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I refered to this same issue. I too gave engineering test for this particular scholarship. My issue is the same, why to look for eggregate marks for all disciplines combined if the conducted seperate tests for each discipline? This process was refered as rubbish.
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Because this way government can send best of the best to other countries irrespective of their field. Otherwise for example only 20 applicants appear for one category, and seats are fixed for each category, say 168/9=18.66, then at least 18 out of those 20 applicants will be selected irrespective of their quality. On the other hand there might be 5000 applicants of another category and there are at least 50 top quality individuals but there is only quota of 18~19 for that category. Wouldn't it be unfair to not select those 31~32 who fall outside quota?
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Because this way government can send best of the best to other countries irrespective of their field. Otherwise for example only 20 applicants appear for one category, and seats are fixed for each category, say 168/9=18.66, then at least 18 out of those 20 applicants will be selected irrespective of their quality. On the other hand there might be 5000 applicants of another category and there are at least 50 top quality individuals but there is only quota of 18~19 for that category. Wouldn't it be unfair to not select those 31~32 who fall outside quota?
If government really want to send "best of the best" then there should be no provincial quota.
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Yes I agree, but then its a possibility that only province with bigger population gets all of the scholarships, this way smaller provinces will be neglected and human resource is developed only in one province, but government is also responsible for smaller provinces as well. That's the reason why this scholarship is with ministry of inter provincial coordination and not with ministry of education.

You can rephrase "best of the best at provincial level".
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Yes I agree, but then its a possibility that only province with bigger population gets all of the scholarships, this way smaller provinces will be neglected and human resource is developed only in one province, but government is also responsible for smaller provinces as well. That's the reason why this scholarship is with ministry of inter provincial coordination and not with ministry of education.

You can rephrase "best of the best at provincial level".
i just dont get it. even if this scholarship selection is with provincial co-ordination, there are provinces where quota is very less as compared to population. engineering people should be compared with engineering candidates not with commerce of business admin.
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i just dont get it. even if this scholarship selection is with provincial co-ordination, there are provinces where quota is very less as compared to population. engineering people should be compared with engineering candidates not with commerce of business admin.
Please see my previous post.Thanks
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Engineering test was very tough. It included questions from so many different fields. Electrical, Mechanical, Computer Science, Chemical, everything. Being a Mechatronics engineering, I probably had more knowledge about different fields than many others, but I could manage only 65. Therefore, those who have scored 70 or more in Engineering have really done a splendid job. While I agree that there should have been seats discipline wise or if the seats were not discipline wise then test should have been general too, but it's ridiculous to suggest that engineers scored high because difficulty level was low. You have to keep in mind that engineering had most candidates (close to 3000) and that engineering, alongwith medical, are the most sought after disciplines. The competition within engineering is very high.
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Moral of the story: just leave the matter to IPC and let them handle it their own way. End of discussion


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Conclusion:

1- General test for engineers will be highly unfair to applicants from other fields as explained in my previous posts(its unfair to ask quantitative questions to applicants of languages and medical, same way it will be ridiculous to ask political science and current affairs questions to engineers). So single type of test is not possible
2- Allocating equal seats to each field is also unfair. Like AHKK said there were 3000 applicants from engineering, I believe there will be atleast 50 high quality individuals but allocation will give only 18~19 seats to engineering field.
3- Multiple papers for engineers is also not feasible because of too many fields.

So as quantum said, leave it to IPC, at least IPC is distributing according to a criteria unlike old times (before HEC) when government scholarships were distributed on personal references.
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Yes we should wait for IPC.
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