AssalamOAlykum,

Respected Sister, Firstly Have a warmest Eid wishes on my behalf. Secondly, this question seems to have been haunted your mind after sufficient thought and extensive deliberation. Yes, under Islamic Fiqah, three credible persons are suffice for validation of this confirmation vis-à-vis Moon-sightedness. But to some extent I concur with Brother Khurram that there used to be highly retrogressive means of communication in primitive ages amongst our ancestors which kept people apart from having abrupt communication and therefore, made people have eid's celeberation on different days.

One important factor which usually give credence to have celebration of multiple Eid’s at different places is weather’s conditions. It is true that whenever in era of Our Holy Prophet (saww) weather used to be overcast at completion of 29th fast, then Eid was not announced.

To support my argument,

Book: Ramadan and Eid
Writer: Mufti Kaaarm Islihi
Chapter: Eid-ul-Fitr supplication
Page No. 153 (Last Paragraph)

(……..declaration of Eid was not promulgated under circumstances when sky was overcast which made visibility of moon invisible………..)

But today we experience that big cities are massively and densely populated and there abounds smoke-emitting vehicles which is having detrimental and adverse affects on environment and exposing a perpetual threat to the ozone layer. This makes excessive smoke in the air and therefore, resulting in air pollution. Under such air-polluted circumstances one can hardly sight the moon vividly.

As regards NWFP, then most of its vicinity is pollution free like Swat and other rural areas and one can very easily and clearly visualize the Moon at accurate time. People cannot wait for declaration of government because they themselves become the clear witness of the moon.

I have little bit studied astronomy and as per my little knowledge that astronomies usually develop a time table for the dates of new moon. This time table is usually for particular intervals e.g. from 1990 to 2000, they will develop particular schedule based upon scientific formulae.

To support my argument,

Book: “Astronomic Perspectives” by Dr.K.G.Robertson,. P.211

“…………all the dates of New Moon and Full Moon for the years 2000 tto 2019 are listed on a page of tables. For years before 2000 or after 2018 you should add or subtract 19 until you end up between 2000 and 2018. For example, the dates for 1965 are the same as those for 1965 + 2*19 = 2003…………..”

Scientifically, it has been proven that Moon usually takes one month to complete the orbit around the earth. In order to visualize the completion of moon in its orbit, its position must be compared with something and in physics this is usually called frame-of-reference when movement of one object is observed with respect to position of another.

We all know that western calendar which is also called Gregorian Calendar is not dependent upon the different phases of moon. But only Islamic Calendar and also Jewish calendar are dependent upon the movement and different phases of moon. Conclusively, there are several factors which are serving as barrier to visually magnify the moon.

This problem can only be overcome if committee decides to distribute its members to view the moon from all provinces and specially rural areas therein where weather is mostly immaculate and makes it easy to see the beautiful chand of eid-ul-fitr.

With Kind Regards,
Khyber

WHAT ABOUT THE CHAGE OF MATL'AA,,,,,,,,,

To me, as the communication is so fast nowadays and the earth has become a global village, so i think, now if one has witnesses of Moon Sighting from Saudi Arabia, then we in pakistan can celebrate eid/ ramadan on that witnesses.(Personally i think, islam is a universal religion, it reaches out sides the boundries of the countries. for islam, the boundries are transparent.)

Second i dont understand the difference of two days?????????

Third, i think if Pak Govt Eid was correct(to my, i think we should celebrate eid with saud arabia to see a unity in muslims),,,,,,,,,,,then there was a problem with Saudi Arabia, Qatar, ARAB AMARAT, Afghanistan, NWFP, Europe, and other countries where muslims celebrated eid on monday,,,,,,

God knows better,,,,,,

Respected "Thinking", you have very rightly said and this idea is uphold by many renowned scholars that we should follow up saudia arab to define our Islamic month. As Mufti Azam Pakistan, Mufti Taqqi Ustmani in his recent interview with local journal advocated the same idea.

Kind Regards,
Khyber

its all about "Chair"not about moon and earth.

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What i say about this issue i guess its all about politics the islamic issues are also now discuss on politics it weakens in our faith and belifes.The best way should be to celebrate the eid at one time the celebrateing the eid on different days discourage the muslims faith moon sightenes controversy never be there before but now in peshawar they celebrate the eid separetly same in bluchistan do we say this keep the issue in our mind that peshawar muslims are different or thier belifes are different from the bluchistan or other provinces no never they all are the belivers of one GOD and agree the Phrophet muhammad (p.b.u.h) and he is the messanger of God then why we all peple have this kind of freak attitudes regarding to this, the most sensitive issue of islam its not a kidding matter its not a muslical chair that one see the moon and one's not would celebrate the eid and vise versa.It is regrettably to say and discuss this bcoz it should happen like this i never thought in my life can anyone do not take any serious setup aginst this multiple eid celebration cant people relaize this, this is not right by the view of ISlam does not anyone think that it really have bad impression at our religon do anyone not want to reliaze what the non-muslim think about us about Islam do u not people want that the struggle the hardworking of the Allamas, scholars and other resentment religious belivers get the sweet fruit of it do u not want what they want to try to get and what are thier aims towards islam should be appriciated among the non-muslims and they ecome islam and blive this that islam is the most wounderful religion in this world do u not want ??? everyone want then why this happened what are these changes all about?

its not enough to come out with some slogans and promises and then forget we should gathered pace and try to slove this matter as soon as possible
there should be an adminstrative policy one should have complete knowladge about this and govt should enable to gate one plateforum in order to avoid the confusion of the people about the moon Eid should be celebrated with full joy and happiness the Enthusiasm in people should be increased the govt should adopt such policies that stop to celebrate the multipal eids we, people are also responsible to think about it to highly unappriaciate these movments and disgrace it, not a single person, no any town no any area should be allow to celebrate separate eid.we all are one our bliefe our God is One we all are the follower of dear prophet (p.b.u.h) so we should not do such acts that realy shameful and grisply for our religion.

The reforms in this concern is not far enough for us to seek.But before we people to reform we keep in mind such things have a worst impact on our faith and in life this will discourage racial dismcrimination islam teaches us there i no distinction weather there is back or white, rich or poor, young or old oslam completly eliminate the distincton between american and the african.Here they have come, brother unto brother, sister unto sister it teches us the lesson of brotherhood to celebrate eid at different places discourage the brotherhood weak the relations and forget the trust each other.Islam also teaches us to help the others live together and walk side by side work with devotion and coordination multiple eids apart all these facts and fade the happiness of celecration.

WE al are muslims its our responsiblty to avoid and discourage this hatrick or double eid we should be celebrate eid togethr share hapiness with others help the poors nad appiciate the desicsion of the HALAL COMMITTE trsut others belive in faith and gt together at one platform this is all what i am trying to discover among the muslims so i appeal to the muslim come together forget al the grumbles and isseues be one bcoz union is strenght in order to give no any chance to the enemy to critise the muslims the islam.

Whatever the matter is how complicated it is but we ar muslim and we all have heart an we relaize this that what we are doing this is not accroding to islam teaching this feeling is the sign of positive respone for the islam an muslims even our youngsters doing thier job with responibilty if we want to see our pakistan strong and islam is the best religion if we want that noone get up and critise our islam our Ullmas and our belifes if we want that mor and more non-muslims become muslim then we shoul not take particpate and courage these kind of issues we should be celebrat all the religous evens with happiness and altogehter.


Thx if i am emtional then i m sorry ......u can change an amnd anything without any hesitation it will be appricated

Regards
Snob

Before going to answer ur query most respectful fellow Qurrat!I would like to place some Facts which question on credibility of this decision.

1) The Cheif Judge Khalifa for this decision is a Kurd,and we know kurd as a nation hate Saddam.

2) The Judge is renowned for Biased Desicions in judiciary.

3) Saddam's lawyer was sent out during hearing of case on Final Decision day!

4) The Court is under American Law agencies,so great influence of American lobby is not ignored,remembering last Judge say bye to his services due to very hi pressure of American Influence.

These are just pre-conditions of an anticipated decision by the so-called Judge, Mohammed Oreibi al-Khalifa ,that seriouly make the decision doubtful.Furthermore Saddam'z has criticised the chief judge at his genocide trial in Baghdad, saying he has not been allowed to defend himself.His comments came a day after the judge switched off the ex-leader's microphone and threw him out of court after he shouted a verse from the Quran.

Well these are the ground realities which make this decision very suspicious.Well on other hand if we noticed Saddam Hussein and six co-defendants are being tried for war crimes and genocide against the Kurds.Its shameful era of Iraq,since so many expensive lives are lost due to this sinful activity.But to hang Saddam without any valid proof of his involvement in that genocide is just rubbish.And Saddam's point of view must bring into notice of common people.So i am not in a positon to say Saddam's death sentence is justified by any means.I must oppose such non-procedurized biased decisions.

Best Regards,

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